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It looks like the 'real' /affordable RDNA3 + next gen NV desktop launch won't launch until September. Thoughts?
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Am expecting/hoping that RDNA4 will have a slightly earlier release than usual using the 4N/optimised 5nm node. That may be too optimistic though.
I think they should use the best fabrication process possible - Probably N3E or N3P in 2024, which is when RDNA4 is due.
They need to bring the power consumption down a lot -AMD said this (power consumption) was the main reason for not having higher end GPUs than the current Navi31.
They need to bring the power consumption down a lot -AMD said this (power consumption) was the main reason for not having higher end GPUs than the current Navi31.
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It seems like Intel's A770 16GB card is quite competitive priced at ~£360.
It's good value if you need a lot of VRAM:
The performance got a boost with new drivers in March.
The cost per frame works out at £4.93 at 1440p resolution.
The cheapest 6700 XT (12GB) is priced at £355 and has a cost per frame of £4.32 so is still the winner overall, as a 1440p card.
Ge RTX 3060 TI is still a powerful card, but I personally would want 12GB of VRAM for 2023 games if playing at 1440p.
But the A770 16GB probably needs another price drop down to £300, to make it really competitive.
It's good value if you need a lot of VRAM:
The performance got a boost with new drivers in March.
The cost per frame works out at £4.93 at 1440p resolution.
The cheapest 6700 XT (12GB) is priced at £355 and has a cost per frame of £4.32 so is still the winner overall, as a 1440p card.
Ge RTX 3060 TI is still a powerful card, but I personally would want 12GB of VRAM for 2023 games if playing at 1440p.
But the A770 16GB probably needs another price drop down to £300, to make it really competitive.
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AMD confirms mainstream Radeon 7000 GPU launch this quarter, RX 7950XT spotted in ROCm pull request - VideoCardz.com
AMD finally confirms its plans for the mainstream Radeon GPU series During the Q1 2023 earnings call, AMD CEO and President Dr. Lisa Su admitted the company will have an update to the mainstream series this quarter. Radeon 6500/6650XT, Source: TweakTown It is not a secret that AMD is working on...
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The RX7700XT has the same graphics ID as the RX7600XT. So the RX7700XT will be basically an overclocked RX6650XT with more VRAM?
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I suspect it's the new RX 590, which was an RX580 on 12nm with bumped clocks.AMD confirms mainstream Radeon 7000 GPU launch this quarter, RX 7950XT spotted in ROCm pull request - VideoCardz.com
AMD finally confirms its plans for the mainstream Radeon GPU series During the Q1 2023 earnings call, AMD CEO and President Dr. Lisa Su admitted the company will have an update to the mainstream series this quarter. Radeon 6500/6650XT, Source: TweakTown It is not a secret that AMD is working on...
The RX7700XT has the same graphics ID as the RX7600XT. So the RX7700XT will be basically an overclocked RX6650XT with more VRAM?
Interesting rumours.
It looks like there's nothing officially announced yet but more Navi33 GPUs (like the 7600 and 7600XT), this time for desktop, which isn't particularly exciting because they are limited to 32 CUs and use the 6nm fab. process, so 1080p tier.
It looks like there's nothing officially announced yet but more Navi33 GPUs (like the 7600 and 7600XT), this time for desktop, which isn't particularly exciting because they are limited to 32 CUs and use the 6nm fab. process, so 1080p tier.
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RDNA2 workstation Navi21 GPUs didn't launch until June 2021 (RDNA2 desktop launched in October 2020):
en.wikipedia.org
RDNA3 workstation Navi31 GPUs (e.g. W7800 with 70 compute units) are supposed to be released this quarter, so very likely in June 2023.
My guess is that we could get a desktop equivalent e.g. RX 7800 XT in Q3 2023.
But Navi32 remains a mystery.
To me, it would be logical that the 7700 and 7700XT would be the only Navi32 cards, considering that Navi22 was used for the RX 6700 and XT.
But there still seems to be quite a lot of RX 6700 and 6700 XTs in stock (some models), which suggests a delay to Navi32.
Radeon Pro - Wikipedia
RDNA3 workstation Navi31 GPUs (e.g. W7800 with 70 compute units) are supposed to be released this quarter, so very likely in June 2023.
My guess is that we could get a desktop equivalent e.g. RX 7800 XT in Q3 2023.
But Navi32 remains a mystery.
To me, it would be logical that the 7700 and 7700XT would be the only Navi32 cards, considering that Navi22 was used for the RX 6700 and XT.
But there still seems to be quite a lot of RX 6700 and 6700 XTs in stock (some models), which suggests a delay to Navi32.
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AMD launched the GPU almost 6 months ago....
They refused to release the rest the line up because like Nvidia they tried to up the pricing.
So i refuse to consider the 7950 being a new GPU other then re-release so they can dump the whole product stack at once as opposing to saying, sorry guys, we waited almost 6 months to release something new because you obviously can open your wallets but aren't now.
They refused to release the rest the line up because like Nvidia they tried to up the pricing.
So i refuse to consider the 7950 being a new GPU other then re-release so they can dump the whole product stack at once as opposing to saying, sorry guys, we waited almost 6 months to release something new because you obviously can open your wallets but aren't now.
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But it will be a downgrade over the RX6700XT:
1.)Less shaders
2.)Lower memory bandwidth
3.)Less Infinity Cache
4.)PCI-E 8X connection,so more issues on a PCI-E 3.0 system
If it clocked to 3GHZ or higher,it would be similar TFLOPs to an RX6700XT:
AMD Radeon RX 6650 XT Specs
AMD Navi 23, 2635 MHz, 2048 Cores, 128 TMUs, 64 ROPs, 8192 MB GDDR6, 2190 MHz, 128 bit
AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT Specs
AMD Navi 22, 2581 MHz, 2560 Cores, 160 TMUs, 64 ROPs, 12288 MB GDDR6, 2000 MHz, 192 bit
So it might just essentially an RX6700XT with 16GB of VRAM,and maybe a tad better RT performance? But it might be worse off at qHD and 4K because Navi 23 had 1/3 the Infinity Cache of Navi 33. Hence it should be £300 at most.
Navi 31 apparently had some issues according to MLID. The RX7950 series might be using a respun and fixed Navi 31.
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Let's hope, and we can see what it can really do!
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The RX7700XT looks like a pile of fail. It better be £300 at most.
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No reason to think that the RX 7700 XT won't be a Navi32 card.
Should be decent if that's the case.
I was thinking before that the RX 7700 - RX 7800 XT are likely to be Navi32, and would replace Navi21 cards.
It's difficult to know for the RX 7800 XT though. Yields are not good for Navi31, so I'd imagine it's more likely to be Navi32.
Should be decent if that's the case.
I was thinking before that the RX 7700 - RX 7800 XT are likely to be Navi32, and would replace Navi21 cards.
It's difficult to know for the RX 7800 XT though. Yields are not good for Navi31, so I'd imagine it's more likely to be Navi32.
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That leak was from an official contribution(?)to the ROCm software stack.