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It looks like the 'real' /affordable RDNA3 + next gen NV desktop launch won't launch until September. Thoughts?
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It did put them in a weird place.
They cannot discount it a lot more without having an uncompetitive 7800XT and they have a very tight window of performance between a potential 7800xt and its predecessor.
Yeh, but its smack in between the 4070ti and 4080 in rasterization performance (and not far off the 4070ti in ray tracing either) and the reference is cheaper than the 4070ti. It also has 20gb which is probably helping it in sales vs the 4070ti.
I don't think they will blink first. They will likely only make a wholesale drop if Nvidia do.
If Nvidia hadnt gone nuts/greedy with the 4080 and 4070/ti price then AMD probably would have named it the 7800xt and sold it for ~£600.
Essentially, until the 4070ti comes down in price, AMD probably think their is little reason for them to drop the price of the 7900 xt
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I think it's mostly based on how many they can produce. If they can increase production of these GPU dies, I think the price will come down.
It was a problem with RDNA2 cards as well (particularly the RX 6800 XT and 6900 XT). They couldn't produce enough to meet the demand (although this has arguably fallen with the RDNA3 series).
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Rx7600 appears in Canada for $340usd
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Custom Radeon RX 7600 graphics cards listed in Canada at 444 CAD - VideoCardz.com
AMD Radeon RX 7600 launching soon Custom Radeon RX 7600 graphics cards have been listed by a Canadian retailer. We have received a tip from one of our readers that PC Canada is already listing two custom models from Sapphire and MSI. As per the product description, both cards are confirmed to...
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That's Canada though.Nice, only $140 overpriced.
Translates to just under $270 USD which is about £220 that's not that bad of a price if it translates correctly.
Wasn't long go OCUK were selling 6600s for £300-£500
The price is $450 Canadian dollars
The GPU was listed by a pc store that operates in Ontario Canada, Ontario has a sales tax of 13%
After converting the Canadian price into US dollar and removing sales taxes, the underlying price is $295 US Dollars
The card was an AIB rx7600, not an AMD version
The GPU was listed by a pc store that operates in Ontario Canada, Ontario has a sales tax of 13%
After converting the Canadian price into US dollar and removing sales taxes, the underlying price is $295 US Dollars
The card was an AIB rx7600, not an AMD version
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It's $444 CAD, $340 USD, IMO $140 USD overpriced.
In that case $95 USD overpriced.
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Ah my bad I saw Canada didn't notice he was talking in USD
$295 works out to £240 I don't think that's too bad for a AIB card at all for that tier of card. Cheaper than I expected.
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The Nvidia 1060 and AMD 480 launched at $250, 9 years ago and you want the same class of GPU to release at $200 nearly a decade later?
Or is it just AMD you think should release cards ridiculously cheap?
If anything these are the most realistic price of any card if that's the price. Do you honestly think the 4060 will be as cheap as that?
I want whatever you're injecting dude.
The 480 was 250 in the UK (before it jumped up 100/200 due to mining) if the 7600 ends up being around 250 to 300 I'll consider that a win after a decade of inflation.
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Some people, IMO at least are getting a bit daft
The 6600 was $329 and no one said that was unreasonable, now with Nvidia launching $600+ 4070 they think the only way to stop the 4060 from becoming $400+ is to have the 7600 at $200 because just being $100 cheaper is not going to make Nvidia flinch.
Its getting a bit ###### stupid, direct your anger where its needed.
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Some people, IMO at least are getting a bit daft
The 6600 was $329 and no one said that was unreasonable, now with Nvidia launching $600+ 4070 they think the only way to stop the 4060 from becoming $400+ is to have the 7600 at $200 because just being $100 cheaper is not going to make Nvidia flinch.
Its getting a bit ###### stupid, direct your anger where its needed.
Yeh I'm actually surprised it's as close as it is to the previous gen price wise (of course this is all assuming it launches at that price)
I managed to get a MSRP RX480 for 250 if we end up with the 7600 at around 250-300 4 gens and 9 years on I consider that a good price and cheap. I would have expected it to be 350 to 400.
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So after that when the 7600 goes EOL and gets discounted to £170 the 8600 should then be £170, then that goes EOL and gets discounted to £130, the 9600 is then £130 and gets discounted to £80.... and so on.
Sure, i'm all for it but then i was rudely woken up.
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The funny thing is these EOL cards literally have their previous prices crossed out and the 7600 looks to be cheaper than those previous pre EOL prices....
Like I swear some people won't be happy unless AMD give them them a free 7950x3D with every 7600 and even then that's a bad deal unless it comes with a copy of TLOU.
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So about £280.Its merely average.
Also the RX6600XT was priced with pandemic scalping in mind. It got panned at its RRP because it was a side wise upgrade at best.
Also the RX5600XT and RX5700 were under £300 and almost doubled performance over the RX480(the RX570 is a good approximation of the RX480) in three years :
https://tpucdn.com/review/sapphire-radeon-rx-5600-xt-pulse/images/relative-performance_1920-1080.png
The RX5000 series was made on a cutting edge TSMC 7NM process with cutting edge GDDR6.
If the RX7600 is 10% better than an RX6650XT it is just over 30% faster than an RX6600:
The problem is the RX6600 was only 15% faster than an RX5600XT and tied an RX5700 but the UK street price was more.
The issue is that four years after the RX5600XT/RX5700 launched we are probably only seeing 30% to 40% better performance under £300 in over 4 years.
Also more VRAM stagnation in an era where GDDR6 is cheap.
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So you think releasing a lower-mid range card at a higher price than a top end card from a decade ago is a good deal.
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Yeah, some cards were launched during the pandemic, so complains were low. You don't look like that (as in high prices during covid/mining boom) at the general picture just because it favours your darling company as some fans do.
The issue is more complex. For instance, 4070 is about twice as fast vs 2070 and 65% faster than 2080 (TPU numbers). 2070 was $500 and 2080 was $700. Looking like this at the whole picture, with 4070 at $600, you'd say is a great buy 5 or so years later, why people would complain, poor company has to make some money, 12gb are plenty!
Technology can overcome inflation and BOM costs. Some people don't seem to get that, they seem more keen in pumping their favorite company marketing and profits than their own pockets (or who knows, maybe they have some interest holding such views).