It was only a matter of time; Virgin Media start packet shaping

OMG 350mb on 2mb product,

Thats like 30mins lol,

Not good for me as I download from newsgroups when I come back from uni in the evening.

Nicely screwed by virgin.

sid
 
the thing is the service there offering is now going to be worse than sky for 10 quid lol

unlimited and no traffic shapped or restricted. :p

VM u LOSE again. they really need to get a grip and so does anyone who tries to stick up for them with this move as its clearly going to get worse
 
The service I have received from NTL has been second-to-none and I've been really impressed :) ADSL just has too many variables. Lets hope VM don't screw things up.
 
I've just worked out that 20mb product is equivalent to have 7-8gb/hr of bandwidth,

So that 3gb cap is around 25mins of download time.

What a pointless move, why offer a product which you can only use for 25mins during peak time. surely 10mb uncapped is better than 20mb for 25mins??

Disaster I think. I also made the mistake a while back of not getting a phone line installed because cable were good back in the day, I can get BE unlimited here but that £24 + £11 to BT so it comes to a lot at the end of the day while now I have a dedicated VOIP phone.

sid
 
Si MPS said:
what, so when you're shaped you'll only be able to download at 640kb/s?

well boo hoo......

yeah for 4 hours anyways, then another 25mins of 20mb, then 4 hours of 5mbit, then peak time should be finished and you should be back to 20mb

Thats the theory

sid
 
sid said:
yeah for 4 hours anyways, then another 25mins of 20mb, then 4 hours of 5mbit, then peak time should be finished and you should be back to 20mb

Thats the theory

sid

it was a tad sarcastic of me mate, i just dont understand what people need so quickly that even downloading at 640kb/s isnt acceptable :D
 
Si MPS said:
it was a tad sarcastic of me mate, i just dont understand what people need so quickly that even downloading at 640kb/s isnt acceptable :D

Its the fact the 20Mb upgrade was the biggest point in a lot of people staying with VM or in fact switching to VM just like I’ve done, and now the upgrade has arrived they’ve introduced a silly download limit until your throttled there is very little point in the speed upgrade at all, well that’s the way I see it, thats the upsetting part.

Bring back the old uncaped/unlimited download era :(
 
you're getting ramped back, in essence, a tiny amount, for a few hours a day, whilst you pay a rather competitive price for a high bandwidth product just so you can continue to pay this low amount and not have VM infrastructure fall over on them?

way i see it, they're being more than fair, if not GENEROUS.
 
Not really as I've said already,

I'd go for 10mb uncapped rather than 20mb with a stupid throttling rule.

How is is possibly fair? it was perfect before and they've gone and screwed it up.

Ppl who go for the 20mb package are heavy downloaders and will be put off by the limit, so i wonder who this product is aimed at?

sid
 
yeh your not quite getting it are you.

They offer 20mb you shold get 20mb, they blag on about no limits this and that and what do loyal customer for over 10 years get. Naff all some pansy download restriction so there network doesnt die because there offfering to much.

should be kept at 10mb unlimited untill there network can take 20mb unlimited. and 640kbps may be fine to you, but it isnt to those of us who use it at 1.2mb just now !

since when did noobs need 20mb to browse asda and do there shopping.
 
Bring back Blueyonder! Or at least NTL. :(

I would also rather keep uncapped 10mb rather than have this stupid packet shaped 20mb. People pay for the higher bandwidth because they use it; they should be given it!

I have never experienced any slow down during peak times on my connection. Sure with 20mb the strain is doubled, but I bet the slow down wouldn't be huge, if any at all! They are just doing it to save money tbh.
 
If the heavy downloaders slow down the casual users then why aren't the heavy downloaders getting bad speeds from all the other heavy downloaders.
 
Im not with VM but its sounds like a dumb idea was thinking of switching to the 5MB package, seen as though my area sux and i can only get 5.5MB MAX. Stupid BT not installing Cable. So atm iim with BT 1MB U/L Broadband haha, so stop moaning! i get MAX of 110KB/s downloads so don't moan when your only getting 640KB/s!!!!!!!!!!!
 
PC-M Vip3r said:
Im not with VM but its sounds like a dumb idea was thinking of switching to the 5MB package, seen as though my area sux and i can only get 5.5MB MAX. Stupid BT not installing Cable. So atm iim with BT 1MB U/L Broadband haha, so stop moaning! i get MAX of 110KB/s downloads so don't moan when your only getting 640KB/s!!!!!!!!!!!
You're getting your quoted speed though, we are not so we have a right to complain.
 
DAvE18 said:
yeh your not quite getting it are you.

They offer 20mb you shold get 20mb, they blag on about no limits this and that and what do loyal customer for over 10 years get. Naff all some pansy download restriction so there network doesnt die because there offfering to much.

should be kept at 10mb unlimited untill there network can take 20mb unlimited. and 640kbps may be fine to you, but it isnt to those of us who use it at 1.2mb just now !

since when did noobs need 20mb to browse asda and do there shopping.

You are paying for an up to 20mbit line. The bandwidth is shared. If you want a 20mbit leased line you will be paying thousands :)
 
it could be worse..far worse, 1gb a day anyone ?

On this one i think VM are being more than fair... if you need to download lots just do it overnight.

I am on 4m/400k, and i could easily cope with 2m/256k if i go over the limit... I mean its not exaclty 56k speed is it.

one question i do have, is weekends, i assume weekends will be classed as 'off peak' thats when i can see the congestion hitting hard.
 
stigggeh said:
one question i do have, is weekends, i assume weekends will be classed as 'off peak' thats when i can see the congestion hitting hard.

That's a very good question actually. The only gripe i have about this is that vm don't provide a method to monitor your usage. Yes, you can use du meter but that's not much use when you've got lots of comptuers and most people wouldn't be able to set up snmp capture on their routers
 
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