It was only a matter of time; Virgin Media start packet shaping

Psypher5 said:
Staying with VM means paying 25quid a month for 4meg. My parents dont want to keep this price to connection ratio, when they want to pay cheaper for a decent connection BE is a great alternative. (faster speeds for less money... and yes you can moan about it being "adsl so i wont be solid", but be said id get around 9meg, they always dumb it down to be safe, my mate lives same dist form an exchange, they quoted 9meg to him, hes on 15 or there abouts.)

I'm home untill sept, as long as its ok for that time im happy, my rents can then drop it to a 4gb usage pm, saving 10quid a month and still getting same speed as we will do.


BE support seems great, speeds are usually reported ok unless your 4+ km from exchange etc. I also get free connection and a free month, with possible more free months in the future.

It's all about money, in which I dont have a say about. Not everyone can afford 37 quid a month, some people have to drop back and afford what they can. And we can afford a pretty damn good service form a reputable company.

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You dont have to pay £37 a month though, if anyone here does and have been with them over 1 year then why? Its been in loads of threads that you can get it cheaper if you call them. I pay £30 a month for what will be 20 meg and that includes the phone package with evening and weekends, all i did was ring them.
 
some people really need to get real, VM are doing this to keep there infrastructure running, so people who need their constant fill of warez/porn, sorry, 'game demos' and 'distros' don't end up crippling them and making it worse for other users.
 
Not sure if its been asked but what about weekends?

Isnt that classed as Peak?

edi: sorry it was asked on page 2 but no definitive answer has been given.
 
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amazing how they decided to cap there users at 20mb but 10mb is fine.

they need to stop offering 20mb and give us unlimited 10. and what I download is none of your concern.

amazing how we have managed all these years but as soon as virgin take over bam cost cutting and thats all it is.
 
schnipps said:
You dont have to pay £37 a month though, if anyone here does and have been with them over 1 year then why? Its been in loads of threads that you can get it cheaper if you call them. I pay £30 a month for what will be 20 meg and that includes the phone package with evening and weekends, all i did was ring them.
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Most peope who are getting "deals" are actually getting themselve's a nice new 12 month contract which they are'nt even aware of! ;)
 
Yea, it's all Virgin's fault and it's all about money......except that this was trialled and planned by Blueyonder well before the merger - and it's actually costing money to implement.
 
My 10mb service was capped from the start with By before virgin
took over between 3pm-1am i'd be lucky to get 3mbps let alone the stated 5mbps luckily i have now moved and have adsl again virgin are a complete ripoff paying for 20mbps and only getting anywhere between 3-5 in the hours you want to actually use it.Anyway much over 2mb for gaming just isn't required in my opinion it was handy for newsgroups but what's the point not like there's actually stuff worth downloading every day lucky if you get 4 must have releases a month.I'm sure the free newsgroups will be the next to go.
 
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Shin Gouki said:
Most peope who are getting "deals" are actually getting themselve's a nice new 12 month contract which they are'nt even aware of! ;)
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thats their own stupidity and greed then.

i swear some people really dont live in the real world do they. everything for nothing.
 
Haven't really read the thread too deeply, just wondering what speeds would the 4mb line be brought down to when a user breaks 350mb?
 
schnipps said:
You dont have to pay £37 a month though, if anyone here does and have been with them over 1 year then why? Its been in loads of threads that you can get it cheaper if you call them. I pay £30 a month for what will be 20 meg and that includes the phone package with evening and weekends, all i did was ring them.
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I'm not paying 37, im paying 25.
I did phone them, seems the deals only apply to those with 2 or more things (phone and bb etc) Me on bb only was told to jump. Or I could have QUOTE: 18 meg bb for 18 quid a month, for 3 months, then its 37 a month.

Actually the first time i phoned (not to cancel), I was told I could have 10meg, small phone and free tv for 27 a month, got put through to the people who confirm/process the order (35 mins later.) and was told it was wrong, a miss quote and the guy would phone me back, around a month ago.

Shin Gouki said:
Most peope who are getting "deals" are actually getting themselve's a nice new 12 month contract which they are'nt even aware of! ;)
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Actually, its a 3month contract. Which co incides when I leave to uni, it works out for us.
 
Zefan said:
Haven't really read the thread too deeply, just wondering what speeds would the 4mb line be brought down to when a user breaks 350mb?
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2meg for 4 hours. and its 750mb limit for 4meg not 350
 
exactly, the average user is going to go 'ah, fair enough', and hopefully it'll get rid of the bandwidth munchers.
 
I don't really see the problem tbh its a similar thing to what entanet adsl provider do now, when its overloaded they cut peoples speeds i only get 4 meg that halves when its overloaded to around 2 meg.

We moving soon and it won't stop me jumping on the 10meg virgin package tbh, its not like they put in limits of what you can download and being restricted to 5 meg ain't no grief thats still a healthy 580kbs i bet.

Oh can anyone tell me what sort of figure is acceptable monthly usage atm with no moan letters with cable ?
 
Si MPS said:
exactly, the average user is going to go 'ah, fair enough', and hopefully it'll get rid of the bandwidth munchers.
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Why have VM introduced 20Mb? to check emails ;)
 
fothsn said:
Why have VM introduced 20Mb? to check emails ;)
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To draw customers into a, what they want you to think, competitive speed.
then they get you in a contract and put up prices and apply limits. Good marketing strategy?
 
i can't believe people are complaining about not being able to download more than 3gb in an 8 hour period..... and as much as they like for the other 16 hours a day? :confused:
 
Psypher5 said:
but dont you pay the price be a bandwidth muncher? :/
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yeah, but think about it, they're giving you 90Gb worth of peak allowance, thats a lot compared to the competition!
 
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