Back when Mercedes bought Brawn I'd certainly have an educated guess that having at least 1 German driver was high on the wishlist. Either that or Brawn suddenly fell out with Jenson or was overruled from above on the driver choice. They did say that having a German driver wasn't a necessity but I suspect it was as good as one. Any 'National' team needs to be seen as supporting their own drivers in some way. The only real exception to that is Ferrari but anyone that drives for them as good as becomes Italian anyway.
Italian Grand Prix 2014, Monza - Race 13/19
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Indeed. Toto's evil grin when Hamilton overtook Rosberg spoke volumes in my opinion.
Rosberg may be German, but he's the least German German around.
Who do you think signed Rosberg?
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Noooooo waayyyy
Still an enjoyable race, but just didn't captivate me like a number of others this season. Will be trying to get over to Austria and/or Belgium for next year, missing not going to races anymore.
The German thing would hold a lot more water if Mercedes weren't a team run by 2 Austrians and 2 Brits, based in the UK, with an engine devision also UK based and headed up by another Brit.
Mercedes F1 are as German as RBR is Austrian, in name and registration only. To Daimler, being good is more important than being German, so it baffles me that people keep going on about how they will drop Hamilton and retain Rosberg simply because of nationality
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Ferrari are willing to put someone who knows nothing about F1 in charge of their team because he's Italian, and Boulier is the first non English speaking principle at Mclaren. Mercedes have got to be one of the least 'national' of the 'national' teams out there.
They will both stay.
Mercedes F1 are as German as RBR is Austrian, in name and registration only. To Daimler, being good is more important than being German, so it baffles me that people keep going on about how they will drop Hamilton and retain Rosberg simply because of nationality
.Ferrari are willing to put someone who knows nothing about F1 in charge of their team because he's Italian, and Boulier is the first non English speaking principle at Mclaren. Mercedes have got to be one of the least 'national' of the 'national' teams out there.
They will both stay.
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Yeah they only put him in charge cause he is Italian
Jean Todt knew nothing about F1 either when he was put in charge....
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Unless one of them self destructs, both will be at Merc next season. Neither will want to leave that car behind. Hell Lewis could be less aggressive on his price if he really wants to win that championship. If RBR et all catch up in 2015 then 2016 is anyones guess.
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I thought the smile was about the overtake but then Toto came out and said it was an earlier shot before the overtake and he was smiling because Hamilton was closing in on him and he was smiling about "here we go again"...
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This. I used this straight away when I came in to work this morning on my Hamilton fan colleague. I couldnt help myself.
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The German thing would hold a lot more water if Mercedes weren't a team run by 2 Austrians and 2 Brits, based in the UK, with an engine devision also UK based and headed up by another Brit.
Mercedes F1 are as German as RBR is Austrian, in name and registration only. To Daimler, being good is more important than being German, so it baffles me that people keep going on about how they will drop Hamilton and retain Rosberg simply because of nationality
They will both stay.
Whilst I agree with your points, the questions I would ask you are these:
Who is paying? Might that meant they have quite some clout when it comes to choosing drivers?
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I do find it a bit odd that Nico went staright on at the same place twice.... Almost as if the first time he was having a 'practice' for when Ham would be pressurising him and also letting Massa and Hamilton catch up some.
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I think it would have been less obvious to have fumbled the pit stop of Rosberg's than to have his mistake look like it was deliberate to go off twice at the first chicane. Anyone who really believes in the conspiracy theory that it was engineered are in the same category that believe the US deliberately demolished the twin towers with explosives. Total rubbish, do you think that the stewards would have seen the telemetry to see if anything untoward took place, of course they would...
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Nah, because then that would make the team look bad, where as Nico making the mistake is punishment againt him.
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It wouldn't have been hard for Rosberg to brake a few metres later which would mean the telematry would be fine if it was looked at. I mean at 220mph when under pressure it would be easy to accept that he braked a little later and got it wrong. I say all this though and I don't think he did it on purpose as any kind of punishment the Merc handed down.
Lewis was demonstrably quicker than Rosberg all weekend. What makes you think that he suddenly wasn't during the race?
He was a lot faster through the second sector and Rosberg had no answer for it:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/29102305
"Rosberg had a slight edge in the first sector of the lap, but Hamilton was untouchable in the second, particularly at the two demanding Lesmo corners. So much so that Williams's head of performance Rob Smedley was moved to describe his pole lap as "quite stunning".
"The real difference was in the two Lesmos," Mercedes F1 boss Toto Wolff said. "The minimum speed through the two apexes in the Lesmos was very high."
In fact, Hamilton's minimum speed at the first Lesmo in qualifying was an eye-opening 15km/h faster than Rosberg's. There was no answer to that. "
Lewis would have likely caught him anyway. Also, why is it so hard to believe Rosberg broke to late for that first corner? Many of the drivers did the same thing, including Lewis ( the massive lock up near the end of the race)
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Yeah Lewis did brake too late, massive lock up and still made the corner. Which makes Nico sneaking off without locking up even more obvious Seems pretty clear Nico was told if he was ahead of Lewis for the win then he had to move over.
Seems pretty clear Nico was told if he was ahead of Lewis for the win then he had to move over.