Soldato
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I swear I will buy a plane ticket to Los Angeles and find Dave Filoni and smack him in the face if it's Palpatine.
Its Coming - Ahsoka
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What’s the betting that those in this thread and your colleague who care more about what professional sensationalists say than actually watching it themselves even have or planned to subscribe to D+ to watch the show?
When I got bored of Star Trek discovery (made it as far as part way season 3 or 4), I posted that I was out and then just unsubscribed from the thread.
I’ve got no idea why you’d want to invest time discussing TV/film content you don’t like and didn’t watch, it’s totally bizarre.
Likewise spending hours watching other people tell you why they didn’t like the content episode by episode is really very odd.
I just go in cold these days, I might watch a trailer or two but other than that, it gets 1 - 2 episodes and if I don’t get anything out of it, I’m out.
There is so much good content out these these days (we might be watching the back catalogue this fall due to writers strikes!), I just don’t know why people get invested in stuff they either don’t like or don’t find entertaining. It’s totally bizarre, just move on and watch something else.
The next one is the penultimate episode, I am still not liking it.
I skipped 30min of episode 6 with scene from Sabine and Ezra, and didn’t miss much of the plot.
Almost all the live action characters are disappointing even including Ashoka. Her brief cameo in The Mando was good but I felt they should have stopped it there.
I honestly don’t feel anything special about this show.
I watched the clone wars, the rebel. Enjoyed earlier clone wars - lot of middle were padding and the end felt rushed to serve a time line purpose. Rebel was good slow pacing then got some decent story.
Sabine being a force user was never on the cards and I don’t understand why they tried to push this. Her live action character and flaws are more intense and anointing that the animated shows. Least in the animated show she was actually competent and able to hold her own. But in live action, she s just stupid, petulant, ignorant and can’t do anything right despite at least 10yrs has gone by.
The plot is just full of holes and improbability. Why did Ashoka had to go off on her own, why can’t she hide a fleet of x-wings in that massive pod of whales.
Why didn’t she destroy the map soon as she found it in the first place knowing it led to Thrawn, why didn’t she destroy the map when she had a chance like Baylon did, instead of picking the damn thing up.
Also so far the series name sake hasn’t done anything to affect the outcome of the story so far.
If Ashoka didn’t exist and didn’t capture the night sister lady during her cameo in the mando show, they would have obtained the map and got to the next galaxy and found Thrawn. So everything Ashoka has done is in vain so far and has added no value to the outcome…
it’s like the whole Episode 8 last Jedi (worst star war film in the history btw). ….everything the characters did were useless and would have made 0 difference to the end of the story.
I skipped 30min of episode 6 with scene from Sabine and Ezra, and didn’t miss much of the plot.
Almost all the live action characters are disappointing even including Ashoka. Her brief cameo in The Mando was good but I felt they should have stopped it there.
I honestly don’t feel anything special about this show.
I watched the clone wars, the rebel. Enjoyed earlier clone wars - lot of middle were padding and the end felt rushed to serve a time line purpose. Rebel was good slow pacing then got some decent story.
Sabine being a force user was never on the cards and I don’t understand why they tried to push this. Her live action character and flaws are more intense and anointing that the animated shows. Least in the animated show she was actually competent and able to hold her own. But in live action, she s just stupid, petulant, ignorant and can’t do anything right despite at least 10yrs has gone by.
The plot is just full of holes and improbability. Why did Ashoka had to go off on her own, why can’t she hide a fleet of x-wings in that massive pod of whales.
Why didn’t she destroy the map soon as she found it in the first place knowing it led to Thrawn, why didn’t she destroy the map when she had a chance like Baylon did, instead of picking the damn thing up.
Also so far the series name sake hasn’t done anything to affect the outcome of the story so far.
If Ashoka didn’t exist and didn’t capture the night sister lady during her cameo in the mando show, they would have obtained the map and got to the next galaxy and found Thrawn. So everything Ashoka has done is in vain so far and has added no value to the outcome…
it’s like the whole Episode 8 last Jedi (worst star war film in the history btw). ….everything the characters did were useless and would have made 0 difference to the end of the story.
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Stop watching?
They don't have a fleet of x-wings with them...
Because she wanted to see her brother, that's been trailed the whole way through the series. It was obvious she was not going to destroy the map.
Shock horror like almost all of Star Wars plots all of them are literally full of holes, its literally wizards in space with 1970's visuals/technology, force fields, light sabres that defy all rules of physics, hyperspace and yet seemingly no way to wirelessly transfer some data files....
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I probably will just wait for the last episode is out and see what they trying to pull.
They had 3 x-wings and a Corellian freighter and a couple of star cruisers probably got a decent fleet of X-wings.
Whilst a plot can be leaky but it servers a purpose of advancing the plot and story to a destination then fair enough. You can consider it is “creative story telling”.
But making all these plot twists and blatant plot holes to make the story go around in circle is unpalatable. And shows that there is a lack of overall synchronicity and creative cohesion.
It’s like the show runners have a memory retention of no more than a single episode. “Hey episode 1, let’s get Ashoka to discover this important map thingy and know how important it is to the enemy and serves no purpose to the good guys but doesn’t destroy its” episode 2 “hey this really important thing to the enemy but no good to the good guys, let’s get Ashoka to give it to a child and gets it lost to the bad guys” episode 4 “hey there this really important map that the enemy is actually using to get to the big bad of the galaxy, let’s get Ashoka NOT destroy it and otherwise ruin enemy plans forever, and we get one epic light saber battle; instead let her lose it to the bad guys”…
They had 3 x-wings and a Corellian freighter and a couple of star cruisers probably got a decent fleet of X-wings.
Whilst a plot can be leaky but it servers a purpose of advancing the plot and story to a destination then fair enough. You can consider it is “creative story telling”.
But making all these plot twists and blatant plot holes to make the story go around in circle is unpalatable. And shows that there is a lack of overall synchronicity and creative cohesion.
It’s like the show runners have a memory retention of no more than a single episode. “Hey episode 1, let’s get Ashoka to discover this important map thingy and know how important it is to the enemy and serves no purpose to the good guys but doesn’t destroy its” episode 2 “hey this really important thing to the enemy but no good to the good guys, let’s get Ashoka to give it to a child and gets it lost to the bad guys” episode 4 “hey there this really important map that the enemy is actually using to get to the big bad of the galaxy, let’s get Ashoka NOT destroy it and otherwise ruin enemy plans forever, and we get one epic light saber battle; instead let her lose it to the bad guys”…
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Yeah, that were ordered to return to base by the New Republic because Hera’s mission wasn’t authorised. Remember when the capital ships turned up to escort them back?
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Pretty sure the whales can hijack starships and make them go where the whales want to go!
And it was clear Ashoka was communicating with the matriarch of the pod.
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Man of Honour
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Baylon is the best actor/character to hit Star Wars in a while. Not only does he have such a commanding presence, but I really like the take on a dark Jedi rather than the sith that we’ve seen. It’s such a shame that the actor died. Loving the guys who play Ezra and Thrawn too.
I suspect you would get an essay 2 pages long on why they don't want to give a single penny to Disney/Netflix?amazon et al.
I think I checked out of Star Trek Discovery at the end of S3 and stopped posting in the thread as well. Although I reservere the right to criticsis a show as long as I keep watching it and generally the positives outweigh the negatives. I think I was a bit mean in the Silo thread, but in the end I enjoyed the series and kept the criticism mostly playful, jokey.
For movies/franchises I like I always watch the teaser trailer and the main trailers and thats it. No need to research what the writers opinions are, how many reshoots there were, the cost of the film, the sales needed for it to make profit etc. It serves me well, I don't think I ever end up watching that many films that are eventually lower than 5/10 and I can probably count on 1 hand how many films I turn off before completeing each year.
For Tv shows it's much easier. Most trailers show you the content from the 1st 2 or 3 episodes, however many were given to reviewers. Rather than read what the reviewers think, a few days before release, I just watch the same content they had access to and decide myself. Again, generally serves me well and rarely end up watching duds (sometimes reviews from certain posters on this forum help).
There is indeed so much content out there to watch/consume or talk about. Don't like the western stuff from the big studios/streamers? Start a thread discussing your favourite Spanish or Korean or whatever content, of which there is also boatloads. Why spend the majority of your posting/commenting about things you dislike rather than discussing what you do like?
Anyway, back to Ahsoka....
rp2000
Prefacing this by saying I haven't seen Rebels, but is this not the most obvious possibility? I mean I can't think of anything seen in the Tv shows or films meaning this can't happen. Unless i'm mistaken the time period between this show and Episode 7 is pretty much a blank slate. Snoke or Palpatine makes a lot of sense to me!
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I don’t know if it is palp or not.
But from what’s in Mando and other spin offs and from Episode 7 onwards, we know palp doesn’t need them to go to another galaxy for his plan. It doesn’t look like they are bringing back any powerful nightsister either. And palp isn’t using nightsister magic for his end game.
So…dunno and not sure.
But from what’s in Mando and other spin offs and from Episode 7 onwards, we know palp doesn’t need them to go to another galaxy for his plan. It doesn’t look like they are bringing back any powerful nightsister either. And palp isn’t using nightsister magic for his end game.
So…dunno and not sure.
Not sure that makes sense based on some key details you have overlooked.
If she makes the whales take the star ships there, they can't get back, whales go there to die, hence all the bones when they dropped out of hyperspace. That's also why they Ezra couldn't get back the first time after taking Thrawn there.
The hyperspace ring looks suspiciously like it would fit round a star destroyer.... why else make it a ring? It's obviously how everyone will get back.
The hyperspace ring looks suspiciously like it would fit round a star destroyer.... why else make it a ring? It's obviously how everyone will get back.
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Soldato
Very impressed with the cast. The Grand General is superb.
I believe the fans are disappointed with him, but not having followed other media, he seems great to me.
As I have said before, though, all spoilt by the very lack-lustre performance from Rosario Dawson. Why in heaven's name they selected an actor with no presence and no physical skills (for the fight scenes) I will never know.
I believe the fans are disappointed with him, but not having followed other media, he seems great to me.
As I have said before, though, all spoilt by the very lack-lustre performance from Rosario Dawson. Why in heaven's name they selected an actor with no presence and no physical skills (for the fight scenes) I will never know.
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Soldato
The whales are just ridiculous and way too convenient. Besides, I know for a fact that you can only do 20mph in whales.
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Soldato
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Don't go dissing my mate Thrawn
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Erm, let’s say the whales’ effort is a one way trip. They get there, all their energy is spent and they naturally die. Which is fine.
Then why the whole pod travel with the matriarch, if the whole pod is travelling and dying at the end then why not take the 3 cruiser with them and the x-wings a-wings etc onboard to give themselves a fighting chance on the other side.
Ok you may be stranded but clearly you can live off the plants there. Also assuming hyperspace technology does exist in the other side and the mapping information is in the ring - this means getting back is highly dependent on beating Thrawn and Baylon which means have a sizeable force greatly improve your fighting chance. Which makes not taking whatever fighting resources with you even more stupid as seeing you are taking all the whales on a one way suicide trip already.
Also it appears the nightsister has significant presence in the other galaxy and would have star maps and navigation data for that galaxy as well as the return navigational information as they made the trip first place millenia ago. So it won’t be difficult to say that planet has all the resources for the ships to return back to the story galaxy. Which makes the whole series fall apart, as Thrawn would have the resources to return to the story galaxy. Nightsister has the nav data which he appears to be in league with, hyperspace tech in his star destroyer, fuel for hyperspace clearly exists in the galaxy.
Just saying there are some big plot issues and fine if they serve to progress the story along but we seems to be dancing around in a circle with no progression and no character development.
If Sabine turns to the dark and gets yellow and red eyes then fair enough! Least that’s something.
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Caporegime
You're missing the most massive point. Morgan got out of there in the first place. She even tells them this. She tells them how she did it too.