It's too hot :(

robj20 said:
My understanding is that gas is still far cheaper for heating.
I'm going to get AC installed ready for next year.
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Yup it is. Even with heat pump efficiency & boiler inefficiency, the fuel cost per kWh to hear your house is still cheaper with gas.

The government launched the green homes grant last year & i was really hopeful they'd include split inverter/reversible AC systems in it, afterall they work exactly the same as a full house air source heat pump, just as air to air rather than having radiators etc on the internal side, with bonus of being able to cool too obviously.

Alas not, I think it literally comes down to the simplified/ridiculous idea that 'air conditioning/cooling is not environmentally friendly and is therefore unacceptible', hence the average person raises their eyebrows when you mention you have AC in the UK.
 
LOAM said:
You might find there's some movement after 2030 when gas boilers are banned from residential new builds. Developers could turn to turn to AS heat pumps which can be turned over in the summer. It won't be legislated though, Part J of the building Regulations will simply outlaw gas boilers, other options than AS heat pumps are available so you would only see them on certain, probably high end developments.
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Gas boilers will be banned from new builds next year I thought?

2030 or thereafter is a ban on new gas boilers.

Yes the £7 a month on average I spend on gas is sooo wasteful and making the earth die oh noes! Fricking Goblin Grunberg level of crap.

Meanwhile the UK sends whats meant to be plastic recycling to other countries to be incin
 
LOAM said:
You might find there's some movement after 2030 when gas boilers are banned from residential new builds. Developers could turn to turn to AS heat pumps which can be turned over in the summer. It won't be legislated though, Part J of the building Regulations will simply outlaw gas boilers, other options than AS heat pumps are available so you would only see them on certain, probably high end developments.
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Incorrect. The legislation states that all new builds should have an alternative heating source not a flat out ban on boilers but a ban on natural gas boilers.

The network upgrades to plastic pipe over the last few years are making way for Hydrogen as an energy source, any natural gas boiler installed in the last 10 years can be converted to hydrogen fairly cheaply, also natural gas is already mixed with manufactured hydrogen so th transition should be simple.

Alternative energy source heating is not the issue, the bigger issue is getting bulk build home builders it improve house performance and installing renewables from the get go rather than the purchaser having to make modifications after the build is complete. Things like networking (cat6 all round), solar thermal and PV with battery storage should be standard on every home. But the builders don't want to spend out on the initial build as it drives up costs. Very short sighted this!
 
There has been 3 new blocks of flats and several houses on a brownfield site near me, they all have solar panels on the roof. I wonder who benefits from them, the people who buy them or the developer?
 
BigBoy said:
Alternative energy source heating is not the issue, the bigger issue is getting bulk build home builders it improve house performance and installing renewables from the get go rather than the purchaser having to make modifications after the build is complete. Things like networking (cat6 all round), solar thermal and PV with battery storage should be standard on every home. But the builders don't want to spend out on the initial build as it drives up costs. Very short sighted this!
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They go further than that even... our off-plan home builder (Barrett if you want to know) flat out would not accommodate Cat6 runs being put in in any way at all except for their ridiculous and outdated "+£75 per individual cable run"... Can I negotiate a price with you to do multiple runs? No. Can I have access to the house at an appropriate point in the build to have an external company do it? No. Cannot deviate from the plans in even the slightest of ways under any circumstances. Then when we finally get the keys "oh, the loft hatch isn't where it is drawn on the plans? and these light fittings aren't quite where the plans showed them either?" "Ah yeah the builders obviously just felt like the new locations worked better" :|
 
My portable AC Unit arrived, thankfully - my living room is nice and cold now. It was fairly expensive, but seeing it as an investment for the next few years until either apartment blocks sort out the fire safety issues so I don't need a 100% deposit, or I just decide to buy a house instead.
 
BallistixOnZ490 said:
Gas boilers will be banned from new builds next year I thought?

2030 or thereafter is a ban on new gas boilers.

Yes the £7 a month on average I spend on gas is sooo wasteful and making the earth die oh noes! Fricking Goblin Grunberg level of crap.

Meanwhile the UK sends whats meant to be plastic recycling to other countries to be incin
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Gas boilers aren't explicitly banned but any boilers fitted have to be multi-fuel i.e. they can burn hydrogen as well as natural gas.
 
Throrik said:
My portable AC Unit arrived, thankfully - my living room is nice and cold now. It was fairly expensive, but seeing it as an investment for the next few years until either apartment blocks sort out the fire safety issues so I don't need a 100% deposit, or I just decide to buy a house instead.
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Portable AC units suck - can't be in the same room as one that's running unless you enjoy 70db of noise
 
Tom_ed1987 said:
Yup it is. Even with heat pump efficiency & boiler inefficiency, the fuel cost per kWh to hear your house is still cheaper with gas.

The government launched the green homes grant last year & i was really hopeful they'd include split inverter/reversible AC systems in it, afterall they work exactly the same as a full house air source heat pump, just as air to air rather than having radiators etc on the internal side, with bonus of being able to cool too obviously.

Alas not, I think it literally comes down to the simplified/ridiculous idea that 'air conditioning/cooling is not environmentally friendly and is therefore unacceptible', hence the average person raises their eyebrows when you mention you have AC in the UK.
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I am tempted to get aircon. I live in a 3 bed semi, we moved in last october. We had our tower fan on in our bedroom all though the winter with windows open, give or take a week or two when it got really cold. The heating was set at 15oc, quick to warm up the house. Our bedroom rads were always off. The boys rooms were on but I had to keep turning them down as their rooms got very warm quick. I think having aircon to warm the house how we like it would probably be far cheaper than using gas CH..
 
Still 28-29c here in Cardiff. But there's a definite breeze now blowing in the room. Feels less hot even if the degrees value hasn't altered

Don't feel I need any form of aircon.
Unless we start getting regular months off this (I can dream) I'll stick with opening windows
 
Droolinggimp said:
I am tempted to get aircon. I live in a 3 bed semi, we moved in last october. We had our tower fan on in our bedroom all though the winter with windows open, give or take a week or two when it got really cold. The heating was set at 15oc, quick to warm up the house. Our bedroom rads were always off. The boys rooms were on but I had to keep turning them down as their rooms got very warm quick. I think having aircon to warm the house how we like it would probably be far cheaper than using gas CH..
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You definitely want to check your sums before committing. Electricity is ~ 4x the price of gas for the same kWh.
 
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