It's too hot :(

I really don't think it's worth it for the few days of hot weather we get per year.

It's rare that the temp ever goes above 25C in this country. For about 50 weeks of the year it's under that.

Same goes for investment in better snow ploughs and other harsh winter equipment etc.

As some years, we get no snow and once in a while get bad winters. Worst one in recent memory was 2010/11 when it started to snow last weekend of Nov (attended a funeral the last Monday of Nov) and was snow still about in March.

You can imagine if a council invested in winter equipment and does not snow for 5 years. Then comes a Daily Fail front page with a photo of gleaming unused snowploughs etc with headline “What a waste of money”
 
On the south coast it's less true. We have probably 8 - 12 weeks per year with temperatures at 25c or higher.

So for 56 to 84 days per annum, you think that maybe the temps are 25c or higher?
The South Coast is quite long, from Kent to Cornwall I guess, but I feel that you may have unintentionally overestimated the amount of hot days that the South Coast gets.
I quote data from just one part, Bournemouth;

This from weatherspark.com
In Bournemouth, the summers are comfortable, the winters are long and very cold, and it is windy and partly cloudy year round. Over the course of the year, the temperature typically varies from 2°C to 21°C and is rarely below -3°C or above 25°C.
 
East midlands.

I never knew East Midlands had such drastically different weather to West Midlands. We've had 2 weeks of summer so far this year which is probably about 80% of the typical maximum amount seen each year. It's 15c right now and if we're lucky, the weather may cross into the 20's next week, but nothing higher than 20c either.

Apart from the sudden jumps in temperature that make up about 10 days each summer and get many here complaining, summer may as well just be an extension of spring or pre-autumn. There's barely been any difference in the last 10 years.
 
I never knew East Midlands had such drastically different weather to West Midlands. We've had 2 weeks of summer so far this year which is probably about 80% of the typical maximum amount seen each year. It's 15c right now and if we're lucky, the weather may cross into the 20's next week, but nothing higher than 20c either.

Apart from the sudden jumps in temperature that make up about 10 days each summer and get many here complaining, summer may as well just be an extension of spring or pre-autumn. There's barely been any difference in the last 10 years.

Yeah there is a huge difference, as I understand it Birmingham gets a lot of westerly weather, even Derby in the west part of east midlands gets some, Leicester so many times misses it though, my main windows face west, and so many days in summer I see clouds in the distance.

In summer England is like 2 countries, you can cut the diagonal line with a knife, there is frequently a jump of 5-10c between the hot part and cool part.

With that said its been raining today here and mostly cloudy since the storm, this summer has been unusually mild so far with just 2 mini heatwaves. Basically a week or so of 30C hell, usually by start of August its at least 3-4 weeks of 30-34C.
 
How do people actually survive this?

I hope they get real AC as standard?
How do people actually survive this?

How do people survive this, well...patience lol. Fortunately plenty of coastline and beer in this country. Also buildings are made to cope with heat, almost 99% of them are painted white and are reinforced concrete structures with heat insulation on the outer walls.
 
So for 56 to 84 days per annum, you think that maybe the temps are 25c or higher?
The South Coast is quite long, from Kent to Cornwall I guess, but I feel that you may have unintentionally overestimated the amount of hot days that the South Coast gets.
I quote data from just one part, Bournemouth;

This from weatherspark.com
In Bournemouth, the summers are comfortable, the winters are long and very cold, and it is windy and partly cloudy year round. Over the course of the year, the temperature typically varies from 2°C to 21°C and is rarely below -3°C or above 25°C.

I did pull that figure from out of thin air but, having just looked at weatherspark it says the temperature where I am (near Portsmouth & Southampton) rarely goes above 24c, I don't put much faith in their review unfortunately. Having lived round here all my life, I can say we definitely have a large number of days in Summer well over 25c, and have been the warmest place in the country two years on the trot at over 36c.

I'm not saying my figures are entirely accurate, and can't find a decent source from just a quick look, but we definitely get significantly more than the two weeks previously mentioned.
 
I did pull that figure from out of thin air but, having just looked at weatherspark it says the temperature where I am (near Portsmouth & Southampton) rarely goes above 24c, I don't put much faith in their review unfortunately. Having lived round here all my life, I can say we definitely have a large number of days in Summer well over 25c, and have been the warmest place in the country two years on the trot at over 36c.

I'm not saying my figures are entirely accurate, and can't find a decent source from just a quick look, but we definitely get significantly more than the two weeks previously mentioned.

Fair enough, you live there, so I won’t argue about it.
 
Storm definitely done, pleasent evening tbh 20c

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Jesus the storms we've had piles of green leaves ripped off the trees and the beans have taken a battering. Literally the side that faces the wind has been blasted and they're leaning at a crazy angle! Every bloody summer without fail they were just flowering away nicely too

How do people actually survive this?

I hope they get real AC as standard?

Well for one thing they have different traditions in spain they have siesta where basically everywhere shuts from late morning till mid-late afternoon and they work late into the evenings its far too hot midday - afternoon to do anything unless you're a masochist (or a british tourist, mad dogs and all that)
 
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Tentative signs around the second week of August still of a warm up but setup is a bit hit and miss - could easily be a 1 day affair for much of the country. South East could see 1 or more days breach 33C.

Personally would like to see it just a tiny bit warmer and dry, with the sun out, than we've had the last couple of days so it is actually usable weather.
 
Tentative signs around the second week of August still of a warm up but setup is a bit hit and miss - could easily be a 1 day affair for much of the country. South East could see 1 or more days breach 33C.

Personally would like to see it just a tiny bit warmer and dry, with the sun out, than we've had the last couple of days so it is actually usable weather.

33c, I should be so lucky.
This reminds me of schooldays, both Jennifer Nichols and Carole Lucioni promised me that paradise behind the bike sheds would eventually be mine, but it all came to nothing.
 
I never knew East Midlands had such drastically different weather to West Midlands. We've had 2 weeks of summer so far this year which is probably about 80% of the typical maximum amount seen each year. It's 15c right now and if we're lucky, the weather may cross into the 20's next week, but nothing higher than 20c either.

Apart from the sudden jumps in temperature that make up about 10 days each summer and get many here complaining, summer may as well just be an extension of spring or pre-autumn. There's barely been any difference in the last 10 years.
I think one of the reasons for the division over AC being “not worth it”/“best thing ever”, is that the UK clearly has a bit of divide in climates. In the NW, it rarely gets over mid 20’s, so temperatures like the other week are very rare. (In fact weather like we’re having this week, could be pretty much any time of year other than mid-winter). If I thought I’d use it often, I’d have AC in our bedroom, but it’s rare we need a fan, never mind AC.

Maybe climate change will shift the line northwards, but at the moment, outside the South (and cities), I just don’t think it’s warm enough.
 
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