I've given up on LPG - the future is Electric.

[Hawk Tuah]

Plug it in to check the battery and update software, check brakes, clean it.

I expect it's short as the tech is new and the battery has a long warranty, so they're erring on the side of caution. Plus need to make some money on them.

 

[Glaucus]

That is an incredibly short service interval and isn't the same as any car at all. It's a fraction of the interval on the majority of cars.

Which is odd given it has no internal combustion engine so what exactly do they do with it every 8000 miles? Am I right in thinking the Tesla has no fixed interval?

they recommend a yearly or every 12500mile service.

Unlike gasoline cars, Model S requires no oil changes, fuel filter, spark plug replacements, or emission checks. As an electric car, even brake pad replacements are rare because most braking energy is regeneratively captured by the motor and returned to the battery. Our inspection instead focuses on tyre condition and alignment, replacement parts like windshield wiper blades, and software updates.

a lot of money for nothing. £375 for the first inspection where they do

Multi point inspection (w/ tyre rotation and alignment check)
Cabin air filter replacement
Wiper blade set replacement
Key fob battery replacement (set)

https://www.tesla.com/en_GB/support/service-plans?redirect=no

 

[[TW]Fox]

So it doesn't need servicing but they recommend you pay them to check your tyres and wipers every single year, figures

 

[hux]

For those of you with a leaf.

https://cleantechnica.com/2016/01/19/3rd-party-nissan-leaf-battery-pack-upgrades-doubling-to-48-kwh/

 

[Hawk Tuah]

For those of you with a leaf.

https://cleantechnica.com/2016/01/19/3rd-party-nissan-leaf-battery-pack-upgrades-doubling-to-48-kwh/

Not sure it would be worth shipping mine over there.

However, as they get out of warranty, I'm sure there will be 3rd party upgrades and hacks available for them - even in the uk. In a few years I might be interested. But then I might also have my eyes on a 60kw leaf.

 

[robj20]

We don't rely on energy storage in the UK, and we have no current plans to become reliant upon it. National Grid are currently testing the effectiveness of battery banks, while considering other solutions (like distributed storage).

As such, we don't need to include storage in assessments of the cost of renewables. It isn't a necessity; we can assume a baseline and ensure other sources can scale on demand. But it might be that storage does pay; that the value of the energy we are wasting during periods of low demand is worth more than the costs of storing that energy. It's a hot topic in the industry right now.

I thought we were reliant on storage systems and do indeed have them. Fast reserves they call them don't they.

 

[Orionaut]

I thought we were reliant on storage systems and do indeed have them. Fast reserves they call them don't they.

Just down the road from me there is a proposal to build a "Battery bank"

Around 30 shipping containers worth of highly reactive and toxic chemicals!

As luck would have it, I am living (with the prevailing winds and all that) right under where the fallout plume of sulphuric acid and whatever will go if the balloon goes up!

Never mind, I am thinking of moving soon anyway!



(Give me a Nuke any-day, we should have done what the French did, Anybody within a certain distance of a Nuclear plant got free electricity for ever)

 

[Glaucus]

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Around 30 shipping containers worth of highly reactive and toxic chemicals!

As luck would have it, I am living (with the prevailing winds and all that) right under where the fallout plume of sulphuric acid and whatever will go if the balloon goes up!

Never mind, I am thinking of moving soon anyway!

wow how uneducated

https://electrek.co/2016/12/19/tesla-fire-powerpack-test-safety/

 

[Orionaut]

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wow how uneducated

https://electrek.co/2016/12/19/tesla-fire-powerpack-test-safety/

And Yet...!

(I know its not proven by any standard, however!)

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/faulty-pho...yptair-flight-ms804-investigators-say-1600963

I still say that putting metal boxes containing hundreds of tons of molten sodium and sulphur in the middle of a residential urban area is a bit dodgy and the proposers are only getting away with it because of the "Green" credentials.

 

[Glaucus]

again just wow,
so you hold pure speculation over official safety testing and on a different device with far less safety and brains.

 

[Jonnycoupe]

It was only the first smart EV that had the molten sodium batteries in car use, and its simple chemical reaction with the benefit of free cabin heat due to the exothermic reaction.

Hardly unsafe anyway and ironically appeared along nukes in Submarines....

 

[Firestar_3x]

Interesting approach to try and classify something as not safe by referencing a phone.

Far worse and significantly less green things are built in residential areas for which the HSE have no problem renewing the site licences.

 

[Nasher]

Lithium batteries tend to explode when compressed, so I wonder how long it will be before one explodes in a crash

 

[Glaucus]

Lithium batteries tend to explode when compressed, so I wonder how long it will be before one explodes in a crash

its already happened several times, but then car fires aren't uncommon anyway in ICE cars, 174k every year in the US alone. Its another one of those non issues people like to put up as a barrier.
Its also why tesla added a titanium shield and aluminium deflector, to reduce the chance of it happening further.

 

[Hawk Tuah]

The possibility of lithium catching fire in a crash is hardly any different to any other form of fuel currently used - with perhaps the exception of diesel.

It's hardly any reason not to use them - I mean, lets face it, most of us risk a lithium battery in our trouser pockets all day long.

 

[Nasher]

It's extremely rare for petrol to catch fire in an accident and it's easily extinguished. Lithium only needs to be exposed to the air/moisture and it WILL combust and gives off poisonous fumes. But I'm sure they thought about that

 

[Uriel]

TT's Car Sales, Abbey Lane?

It's about a 15 minute walk from my house.

 

[Hawk Tuah]

Some garage in Sheffield. Traveled a long way, and didn't hang around long.

 

[Uriel]

Yup, Sheffield.

I bought my car from Cheltenham so - again -bit of a trek. I had an easier drive back though (Honda Insight Mk2).

 

[Randell Floyd]

Big change coming my way, selling the Octavia vRS and have a new Leaf arriving on PCP in a couple of weeks.

We had the lifestyle test drive, and over the 5 days found that all the cars shortcomings would be easy to live with for what we would be using the Leaf for.

The car is also very addictive in terms of trying to better each drive.