Ive gone and done it...

Liverpool-Lad · 28 Nov 2006 at 15:50

jake000 said:
Nice looking car

How fast is your corsa out of interest?

Erm, 0-60 in around 7 secs and a 15 sec quarter mile or so.

Liverpool-Lad · 28 Nov 2006 at 18:48

Randell Floyd said:
Welcome to the club.

Mine's red as well, but I gave into temptation and upgraded a few things!

240bhp & 250lb/ft now ( and I genuinely say I wouldn't want any more from a FWD car! )

Just wondered, are you in the NW? I wouldnt mind a nose at the car and mods you have done!

Randell Floyd · 28 Nov 2006 at 19:29

Liverpool-Lad said:
Just wondered, are you in the NW? I wouldnt mind a nose at the car and mods you have done!

I'm in the Anglesey side of North Wales, might be worth asking Briskoda peeps for some kind of get together. I'd like too see how much faster mine is vs standard now, as when I turn the boost right down to full boost the difference is leagues apart.

I' sure the 0-60 has been cut from 7.6 to about 6.0 ( if not quicker ) as second gear can go from around 20-65/70mph very fast, third leads to around 125/130mph again very quickly ( as a S2000 can vouch for

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Randell Floyd · 28 Nov 2006 at 19:34

Give me 20min and I'll rehost a few avi's from before most of the mods but with the Blueflame exhasut and the CAI on.

Randell Floyd · 28 Nov 2006 at 19:44

Ok here we go.

Standard car bar the Blueflame exhaust system and a Carbonio Cold Air Induction kit. The car now with the remap and the aftermark Baileys Dump Valve sounds far better.

The rolling road readout for my remap

Quick run with the CAI

A quick rev of the engine

Like I said in the start of the post the sounds have changed a lot after the rest of the work was done, so this is more of a taster!

Liverpool-Lad · 28 Nov 2006 at 20:06

Yep, some form of meet sounds good, might tempt me to start modding this one

Also, is the intercooler standard? It looks pretty wimpy! Have you had the inner arch modded?

PMKeates · 28 Nov 2006 at 20:07

Randell Floyd said:
I'm in the Anglesey side of North Wales, might be worth asking Briskoda peeps for some kind of get together. I'd like too see how much faster mine is vs standard now, as when I turn the boost right down to full boost the difference is leagues apart.

I' sure the 0-60 has been cut from 7.6 to about 6.0 ( if not quicker ) as second gear can go from around 20-65/70mph very fast, third leads to around 125/130mph again very quickly ( as a S2000 can vouch for )

130mph... in 3rd? I can only manage 105mph in third with a massive torque spread!!

Randell Floyd · 28 Nov 2006 at 20:15

PMKeates said:
130mph... in 3rd? I can only manage 105mph in third with a massive torque spread!!

My bad sorry

1st = 43
2nd = 74
3rd = 109
4th = 139
5th = 170.1 ( in theroy this one )

By the time I've shifted and looked down it's 130mph.

These are a standard vRS so mine should if fact get a few mph more per gear as the rev limit has been upped slightly.

rG-tom · 28 Nov 2006 at 20:26

where are you from rhandell? im considering getting an octavia VRS if i get the new job i'm going for

After seeing the price of them they've gone ahead of the leon cupra R

Tom.

Randell Floyd · 28 Nov 2006 at 20:58

rG-tom said:
where are you from rhandell? im considering getting an octavia VRS if i get the new job i'm going for After seeing the price of them they've gone ahead of the leon cupra R

Tom.

From North Wales, I'm in Gwynedd ( near Anglesey ) so I get some of the best roads in UK everyday

I'm currenlty on a year off from my season ticket with Man Utd other wise I would meet up before a match, but if people want to make the trip up this way for a drive etc I would be more than happy to come along.

In fact when I had a Intergra Type R we all met up and went on track in Ty-Croes ( currently Fifth Gear track haunt ).

rG-tom · 28 Nov 2006 at 21:20

Randell Floyd said:
From North Wales, I'm in Gwynedd ( near Anglesey ) so I get some of the best roads in UK everyday

I'm currenlty on a year off from my season ticket with Man Utd other wise I would meet up before a match, but if people want to make the trip up this way for a drive etc I would be more than happy to come along.

In fact when I had a Intergra Type R we all met up and went on track in Ty-Croes ( currently Fifth Gear track haunt ).

ah cool, if i'm ever going over that way I'll give you a shout

Sorry about mispelling randell btw

Tom.

Stormster · 28 Nov 2006 at 22:24

Sweet car mate, saw your corsa on corsasport, and I'm quite tempted! But I'm kinda skint at the mo and don't know if I can afford the petrol costs lol.

The octavia looks brill, really lush cars, excellent choice!

Kingy · 28 Nov 2006 at 22:30

Randell Floyd said:
Ouch, mine was all done for £300 or that mark, turbo timer etc all included.

My mods are:

Full Cat Back Exhaust ( Blueflame )
100 Cell Cat
Carbonio CAI
Baileys DV30 Dump Valve
Boost Controller
Jabba Remap for Optimax

Didn't opt for the usual TIP as Jabba don't recommend it, and also no great use for a FMIC.

What's a turbo timer?
How does a Cat Back Exhaust differ from a full system? Why did you go for Blueflame?
What's a 100 cell CAT?
How does a CAI differ from an air filter? Which is best, cone or panel?
What does the DV30 do?
How does a boost controller work?
Why Jabba instead of Revo etc? Did you go for a custom remap, or a generic map?
What's a TIP? Do you have a FMIC, if so, why did you go for it?

How old is yours? How many miles? Any pics? Any reliability issues? What sort of fuel economy do you get? What gains are to expected from each mod, and what are the estimated costs of each?

Psycrow · 28 Nov 2006 at 22:49

Kingy said:
What's a turbo timer?
It keeps the engine running even after you lock the doors and leave the car, it allows the turbo to cool down properly by continuing to pump oil around
How does a Cat Back Exhaust differ from a full system? Why did you go for Blueflame?
It still allows you to have a CAT and thus pass an MOT test
What's a 100 cell CAT?
Its a high flow CAT. Its more free flowing but you will still pass and MOT with one
How does a CAI differ from an air filter? Which is best, cone or panel?
CAI Cold Air Induction. He has an induction kit which allows more air in. Cone or panel depends on the kit, normally panel is better
What does the DV30 do?
Its a dump valve, it doesn't do anything bar make a ppssssst noise and (about to open an argument here) stalls the turbo loosing you some power.
How does a boost controller work?
It can change the amount of boost pressure the turbo provides. More boost = more power basically
Why Jabba instead of Revo etc? Did you go for a custom remap, or a generic map?
What's a TIP? Do you have a FMIC, if so, why did you go for it?

How old is yours? How many miles? Any pics? Any reliability issues? What sort of fuel economy do you get? What gains are to expected from each mod, and what are the estimated costs of each?

Kingy · 29 Nov 2006 at 00:32

Psycrow said:
It still allows you to have a CAT and thus pass an MOT test
What are the downsides? Less Power, worse noise?

CAI = Cold Air Induction. He has an induction kit which allows more air in. Cone or panel depends on the kit, normally panel is better.
Is a CAI better than a panel filter? Are the differences just power, or noise as well?

Its a dump valve, it doesn't do anything bar make a ppssssst noise and (about to open an argument here) stalls the turbo loosing you some power.
Doesn't the stock engine have a dump valve? How is this one better?

It can change the amount of boost pressure the turbo provides. More boost = more power basically
How do you 'control' a boost controller?

Liverpool-Lad · 29 Nov 2006 at 00:49

1. More free flowing so will give more power.

2. Id say no difference really.

3. The stock one recirculates air into the intake, not to atmosphere.

4. Usually a dial/elec gubbins.

Kingy · 29 Nov 2006 at 11:46

Liverpool-Lad said:
1. More free flowing so will give more power.

So if a full system (is this the same as turbo back?) is more free flowing, even than cat back system with high flow CAT (I'm guessing this is a middle ground?), then how do the full system guys pass their MOT's? Would they need to refit a CAT, or buy an MOT? Or is it possible to pass the MOT anyway without a CAT?

Liverpool-Lad said:
2. Id say no difference really.

Really, aren't CAI kits significantly more expensive? I've got ridiculously random preconceived ideas that a CAI is ~£250 as opposed to ~£70 for a K&N or whatever?

Liverpool-Lad said:
3. The stock one recirculates air into the intake, not to atmosphere.

Presumably this means that colder air is drawn in as a consequence of the different DV, meaning more power/better throttle response?

Liverpool-Lad said:
4. Usually a dial/elec gubbins.

Would this be in car, or under the bonnet? Other than a quick way of upping the boost for pod runs etc, what benefit is this?

Is it possible to get more power/torque (>225/>225), and better (but subtle) noise, without sacrificing fuel economy, reliability, longevity, or drivability (ie, no more lag or compromised powerband) from:-

Custom Remap
New Air Filter (K&N/Green Panel etc)
Dump Valve
Cat Back Exhaust

paradigm · 29 Nov 2006 at 11:49

Liverpool-Lad said:
2. Id say no difference really.

For a NASP car i'd say you were right, but for a FI car, you want as cold intake temperatures as possible, the engine bay gets mightily hot (and the airbox isn't far from the turbo on a 1.8t 20v), and an open cone filter in there would be seriously bogging down your car.

CAI is a must for further power out of the LCR that's for sure, problem is, there is nowhere to route it, you have to relocate the battery first!

Psycrow · 29 Nov 2006 at 12:39

1) People will full systems either have to refit a cat at MOT time or find an MOT tester that will pass them anyway.

2) A K&N Panel filter is £40, a proper cold air kit will cost 100s as there is normally a lot of pipe involved to get the fitler away from the engine.

3)Nah it has nothing to do with colder air temps really, people just like the noise.

4)The max boost presure is desided by electrics controlling various valves on the turbo. Boost controllers allow you to push the turbo to its limits. It means you can run very low boost if you are just pottering around town and up the boost when you want to melt yourself into the seat.

The mods you listed will give you more power without really effecting fuel ecconomy too much (might even go up).

Randell Floyd · 29 Nov 2006 at 13:21

Most of the question have been answered spot on so I wont repeat any answers.

On the vRS the CAT isn't just a couple of bolts too remove like on most cars I've had but more part of the actual system, so that's why most owners choose the middle ground 100cell as it doesn't seem to hinder performance.

The CAI do cost a fair bit more than the normal filters, but it was only around 10% of my overall budget for mods so I preferred having the colder air and the extra noise, as I was used to driving a modded ITR before the vRS

. And it's carbon fibre for bling!

The boost controller changes the boost as to take the car from 180bhp to 240bhp and anywhere in between. Very handy for this time of year as I just dial it down when it's icy or slippery on the roads.
The actual controller is pretty much as boring as you can get, and was a sore point with Jabba as before they changed the description it was suppose to be a electrical and removable system, but it's actual just a small knob ( watch it ) http://www.rhodribaker.entadsl.com/boost.jpg. But it does it's job without attracting any attention so I suppose that a plus.

Fuel ecomony does actually get better if you use the car in the same manner, but of course with the boost at full I do tend to drive the car harder and of course that will see diminished result, but it would get the same MPG driving hard at low boost.

A lot of people have smoother maps than mine at about 220/220, and take the CAI away the car is fairly quite, and as said before the car have recirc dump valves so they are very quite, the atmospheric ones aren't ment for the 1.8t engine by default and they cause all kind of havoc when fitted.

Reliabilty with these maps seem very good, same as the fuel question it all depends on how you drive the car, there are a few over 300bhp that are daily drivers on standard iternals bar the turbo work they have had done, so yes they are fine with this kind of power hike.

Drivibilty on mine at full boost is a little aggressive, but that more to do with the roads getting wet now, and a good set of tyres make a world of a difference. A fair few tuners will be more than happy to map for your style of driving so thats a great bonus.