Caporegime
Hindsight is wonderful thing.
I've Got Someone Sacked .....
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If it were me loosing my job id do him over, however you gotta think that the guy was gonna be operating heavy machinery......
Would you rather his post started ...got someone killed at work today, I knew the machine op was wrecked but I never told anyone and he passed out and killed 3 people???
When its putting peoples lives at risk then honestly its the only thing he could do!
Who's to say the guy would have been sensible over the verbal warning and learnt? Whats stopping him coming in like that a few days/weeks later but no one stopping him do it that week and he causes a massive accident. Whats to say the guy has a drinking problem and now has to confront it after loosing his job because of it?
Its not like when you are 6 or 7 at school and "telling on people" its real life and being an adult calls for not turning up to work drunk, especially when your work requires operating machinery that if used incorrectly could kill!
The OP has done the right and adult thing by following the management structure in the office and taken the right decision when something serious could happen and should never think otherwise!
[FnG]magnolia;20123728 said:You're not going to get him his job back without lying and even then you don't want to go down that route.
You made a poor choice. It happens
Or maybe to stopped 1 person getting killed and his work mate getting 3 years inside???
Where do you draw the line with your 'don't grass' rule? Theft? Assault? Rape? Murder?
HEY IT'S A LEARNING EXPERIENCE FOR ALL PARTIES INVOLVED!
Don't hate on Albert because of what he had done. It's just how it played out, he was on the spot when the fella told him he was drunk, and to be fair, the guy who had a few lagers should have known better, especially talking to a senior...
I think all parties learnt something from this.
If you really think the guy was a hard worker then try to get him back on somehow, with as few hard feelings as possible. But I've no clue if that's doable.
Don't hate on Albert because of what he had done. It's just how it played out, he was on the spot when the fella told him he was drunk, and to be fair, the guy who had a few lagers should have known better, especially talking to a senior...
I think all parties learnt something from this.
If you really think the guy was a hard worker then try to get him back on somehow, with as few hard feelings as possible. But I've no clue if that's doable.
...and i feel terrible about it. I hate playing good cop , bad cop
I'm a Team Leader at work and pick up a workmate on my way to work. On the way there he told me he'd had 4 cans of lager a couple of hours previous. As he drives machinery at work i told my supervisor what he'd said in the car. Subsequently the lad was taken to office and then walked off site. He had worked with me for a year and a half.
I know i did the right thing by telling my supervisor but i can't help thinking how i could have handled it differently so the lad would have kept his job. To make matters worse he was one of my best workers, knew every job and more and was always talking about trying for promotion. Also he's just bought a house and is paying for a holiday for early next year. This keeps going around and around in my head.
I'm not paid enough for this
It's ok, I've sacked loads of people and I can tell you now it's never nice, ever. And if anyone enjoys doing it, they need a baseball bat in the face for being such a heartless ****.
However, from your post I think you done the right thing in that instance. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time .. or something like that. I mean, he REALLY must be an utter moron for doing something so irresponsible, especially with this job role. If you're a cleaner, fine, you won't do much harm, but in a role like that, I want my people 1000% clearheaded with NOTHING unnecessary floating around their bloodstream, most of all alcohol.
Anyway, what I would've done is to send him home even before allowing him to get to work. But for what occurred, you done the right thing, not the nice thing, but the right thing.
Seems harsh to fire someone just like that can you be sure he had four cans? maybe he was exaggerating. ; Did his breath smell of alcohol? have you noticed anything before? I'd try get him his job back.
Then again if they do rehire him imagine how uncomfortable it will be. lol
Then again if they do rehire him imagine how uncomfortable it will be. lol
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Caporegime
I meant to add that the OP could have taken the guy home as an alternative but given that I didn't actually finish my post I can see why it was unclear
Yes indeed it is. I just wish i'd pulled over and told him to take a sickie.
Soldato
If it was lager and he had *just* finished them, he would probably be over the drink driving limit, no? By any means, too intoxicated to operate heavy machinery :/
Oh my ... Absolutely terrible thing to do man
You pick him up and take him to work in your car? Surely you had some sort of relationship with him? Why didn't you take matters into your own hands and try to talk him out of going to work? You're the Team Leader for goodness sake!
There was absolutely no need to snitch to the next man in the hierarchy.
... Absolutely terrible thing to do man You pick him up and take him to work in your car? Surely you had some sort of relationship with him? Why didn't you take matters into your own hands and try to talk him out of going to work? You're the Team Leader for goodness sake!
There was absolutely no need to snitch to the next man in the hierarchy.
Soldato
some of the engineering firms ive worked for over the years, theres been a zero tolerance approach to drink ( or drugs for that matter ), it's normally in your contract, summary dismissal if your under the influence, & ive seen it done, sacked on the spot & down the road, no ifs, ands, or buts about it.
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super grass. wow, watch your back comrades!
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Oh my
You pick him up and take him to work in your car? Surely you had some sort of relationship with him? Why didn't you take matters into your own hands and try to talk him out of going to work? You're the Team Leader for goodness sake!
There was absolutely no need to snitch to the next man in the hierarchy.
i agree 100%,Yes i know the guy should not have been drinking before going to work,but a lot of people can drink quite a lot and have no ill effects because they have got use to it...may sound daft but its true.
But no way,albert you should not have grassed on him.
oh come on man,Your sounding just like our bloody supervisors at work....work and all their guidelines gone to their heads.
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Soldato
I'm not paid enough for this
Rightfully so. There is no sympathy from me, if you want to take consolation from all of this then accept that you may have prevented an accident had he continued to work.
But as a friend I would have told him to call in sick.
I don't even know why the OP didn't think of this, being a friend and all.
OP didn't say he was drunk, it was 4 cans and it was hours before work - however, still wrong. Since the OP was a friend, it could have been handled much better. It isn't a learning experience, its common sense to me.
Soldato
Maybe you could have handled it differently, that's what hindsight is for.
Ultimately you did choose one of the right options, your workplace is safer for it. If he cared so much about his house/holiday he wouldn't have been taking such a stupid risk.
To the people saying "omg wut a grass u suck", I hope you're never put in a position of any responsibility.
Don't beat yourself up about it, he's probably going to hunt you down and do that for you.
Ultimately you did choose one of the right options, your workplace is safer for it. If he cared so much about his house/holiday he wouldn't have been taking such a stupid risk.
To the people saying "omg wut a grass u suck", I hope you're never put in a position of any responsibility.
Don't beat yourself up about it, he's probably going to hunt you down and do that for you.