Soldato
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Op has the chap who got sacked contacted you yet? 
I've Got Someone Sacked .....
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+1 That would have been the better way to go about it.
Soldato
Within the work place and dealing with colleagues I agree with you're sentiment.
As a friend where another friend confides in friendly banter (even though wrong) I would have dealt with it differently.
I suppose it can be brushed off as hindsight, personally I get the impression the OP wasn't confident enough to take action sooner, dwelled on it and felt he better report it to management when it was to late to speak to his friend.
Soldato
Imagine you let him off and he comes into work at a later date having been drinking again. And then gets caught or has an accident. They find out you let him off, after knowing his behaviour. What does that make you, apart from sacked? Your not responsible for his actions and you can't guarantee he wouldn't have done it again.
Soldato
Ever heard of giving someone the benefit of the doubt?
Exactly. The guy is obviously irresponsible and he would have probably done it again in future, letting him off would have been a poor decision.
I suppose it's somewhat hard to judge with what limited information we have, but I don't think the OP has done much wrong here.
Soldato
Imagine I win the lottery on Saturday?
This didn't happen. No one has suggested to allow OP's friend to continue working, they have suggested other means in how it should have been dealt with.
If we play you're scenario out then the OP would have been stupid and would deserve to be sacked, but, it never happend so I don't see the point in this really.
This is indeed true that it could potentially have happend again, although given the good comments the OP said about sacked person, we'll never really know.
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I'm not surprised you feel bad tbh, you should 
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Soldato
I'm saying if it were me I wouldn't have the slightest problem grassing him up or sacking him myself if I could. With no guilt whatsoever. I wouldn't be complicit, I'd feel terrible if something did happen in the future and I'd be partially responsible for not taking action. Drinking/drugs and using machinery is totally irresponsible and he's shown with contractual obligations to boot that he can't be trusted. Sod him.
I don't think what you did was "wrong" as soon, clearly it was a case of him being a liability, it was wrong for him to even attempt to turn up at work in that condition.
However, I don't think you dealt with it in the best way possible. As has been said, it would have likely been best to make him go home and call in sick as a "first chance".
But then you could argue that the trust is gone, since he did try to go to work whilst intoxicated, and he might try it again one time when you're not giving him a lift.
However, I don't think you dealt with it in the best way possible. As has been said, it would have likely been best to make him go home and call in sick as a "first chance".
But then you could argue that the trust is gone, since he did try to go to work whilst intoxicated, and he might try it again one time when you're not giving him a lift.
You made the right decision. This was someone willing to endanger others, making him take off a sick day would not have been appropriate given the circumstances. That is not someone who you want as an employee, a big liability.
Abandon any childish notions of loyalty or honour, we aren't talking about someone stealing a pencil or browsing facebook during work hours.
Abandon any childish notions of loyalty or honour, we aren't talking about someone stealing a pencil or browsing facebook during work hours.
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Yep, seems the most obvious answer. As his team leader you should have taken him home and warned him about his future conduct. Not take him to work and grass on him.
You could have prevented it being a sackable offence by making him stay at home. Wrong choice, only thing you can do it learn from it.
If he is that good a worker maybe you could have a word with your boss about giving him a second chance.
At the end of the day he has no one to blame but himself, how many times has he done it in the past? So although wrong call on your behalf at the time he put himself in that sad situation.
Soldato
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Where are all these people getting 'friend' from? The OP is a team leader and gives the guy who got sack a lift to work. There's no indication he's a friend 
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[FnG]magnolia;20123959 said:Where are all these people getting 'friend' from? The OP is a team leader and gives the guy who got sack a lift to work. There's no indication he's a friend
I think it is implied. Would you give a work collegue a lift to work if you were not friends? If he was not friends with this person then he would also not feel any guilt. He knows personal information about the guy. All implies they are on friendly terms.
Commissario
Grow up.
The worst thing you can do is know that you're going to handle heavy machinery that is potentially deadly if you're not in full control, and then go and have some drink (possibly enough by the sounds of it to put the friend over the drink drive limit), thus massively increasing the risks to everyone.
There is a very good reason many jobs that require you to handle heavy machinery have a very strict drink/drug policy, the risks are too high for anyone to be using them when they are potentially operating with impaired judgement (there are enough serious incidents with things like fork lift, plant machinery and the like when the operators aren't slightly tipsy).
Albert, I think you probably did one of only two things you could have done in the circumstances by informing the foreman/boss.
You could possibly have told your friend to take a sickie, but by the sounds of it he put you in a very tight spot with little time to think of what would be the best course of action for everyone, I'm glad you didn't just ignore it as I can only imagine how much worse you'd feel if something did happen and anyone was hurt.
Not to mention I suspect your job might have been on the line if the boss knew that you were aware of the fact your friend had been drinking, and you didn't do anything about it.
Soldato
You're the team leader. Why aren't you dealing with it?
Nobody's suggesting we actually just let him work drunk, but kicking it up the line and getting someone else to deal with that mess and fire him (since it's in your contract I guess this is the only potential outcome) and then feeling guilty about it doesn't add up to me.
Since you're his team leader, I find it strange he told you he was drinking. Clearly he should have expected something bad to happen to him, unless you were friends, in which case is 'grassing him up' a friendly thing to do?
Either way it's not like you did a 'bad' thing. You did what you were supposed to do, but not many will love you for it. This is the kind of thing that will give you a reputation around the workplace, I bet.
Nobody's suggesting we actually just let him work drunk, but kicking it up the line and getting someone else to deal with that mess and fire him (since it's in your contract I guess this is the only potential outcome) and then feeling guilty about it doesn't add up to me.
Since you're his team leader, I find it strange he told you he was drinking. Clearly he should have expected something bad to happen to him, unless you were friends, in which case is 'grassing him up' a friendly thing to do?
Either way it's not like you did a 'bad' thing. You did what you were supposed to do, but not many will love you for it. This is the kind of thing that will give you a reputation around the workplace, I bet.
Soldato
Your there to earn money not make friends. Its his own fault, and he should never have put you in that situation.
The moral of the story is, don't give anyone a lift to work.
The moral of the story is, don't give anyone a lift to work.