I've Got Someone Sacked .....

Bumping this thread with an update.

The lad had his hearing on Wednesday and was finished. The lad got in touch with me last night on Facebook chat and he said he held no grudges against me as i was only doing my job and that he can't believe how stupid he was. He wished me well and told me he had a couple of interviews lined up for next week.

What kind of shocked me was what my manager had said to him at his disciplinary. At the time i was told to make a signed statement of what the lad had told me at the time.

Apparantley at the disciplinary my manager told the lad that if i hadn't made that statement he would have just have got away with a verbal warning. Fact is my supervisor and manager made the descision to send the lad home , both telling me he stunk of booze. Basically my manager told him 'i'm gutted for you , i don't want to let you go but your Team Leader told us ... '

I'm thinking about approaching my manager on Monday and telling him that i didn't suspend the lad and that HE made that decision , instead of passing the buck all the way down to me and him accepting no responsibilty in what happened , but then again whats the point , the lads gone now.
 
Agree with the concensus, drive him back home tell him to take a sickie and sort himself out or hes out, but on the same point if he put someone in hospital a week later you'd feel bad anyway.

No win situation imo.

EDIT: BTW you didnt get them sacked, they got themselves sacked by drinking on the job and dont bother approaching the manager, at the end of the day it comes down to this if you had not done something about it either way and he'd have killed someone that is a conciense nobody wants to live with, so you just move on, maybe you did him a favour and he will sort his act out and excel.
 
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Vonhelmet said:
Don't go back to the manager. You've already forced his hand in making him do the right thing about this guy who's been sacked - he'll not take kindly to your spelling this out to him.
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Yep.

My guess the manager is a bit spineless so tried to make himself out as the good guy and you as the bad.

Learn the lesson and be careful of him in future. He probably told a different version of events to those above him, some people will do anything and stand on anyone to climb the greasy pole of succession
 
albert said:
Basically my manager told him 'i'm gutted for you , i don't want to let you go but your Team Leader told us ... '

I'm thinking about approaching my manager on Monday and telling him that i didn't suspend the lad and that HE made that decision , instead of passing the buck all the way down to me and him accepting no responsibilty in what happened , but then again whats the point , the lads gone now.
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Perks of being higher up the chain, not worth the argument I would suggest.
 
albert said:
...and i feel terrible about it. I hate playing good cop , bad cop :mad:

I'm a Team Leader at work and pick up a workmate on my way to work. On the way there he told me he'd had 4 cans of lager a couple of hours previous. As he drives machinery at work i told my supervisor what he'd said in the car. Subsequently the lad was taken to office and then walked off site. He had worked with me for a year and a half.

I know i did the right thing by telling my supervisor but i can't help thinking how i could have handled it differently so the lad would have kept his job. To make matters worse he was one of my best workers, knew every job and more and was always talking about trying for promotion. Also he's just bought a house and is paying for a holiday for early next year. This keeps going around and around in my head.

I'm not paid enough for this :( and my head is buzzing ......
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Spook187 said:
Then you should have taken him straight back home to sort himself out imo.
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To the OP, you should have done this^^....taken him back home again. You fail at common sense :(
 
subbytna said:
To the OP, you should have done this^^....taken him back home again. You fail at common sense :(
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How does he take him home if he is standing by the clocking-on station when he tells him?
Would you walk off the factory in full view of everybody, drive your worker home and then come back in late?
(Then again you could have read the posts where he confirmed he was in the car when he told him).
We need confirmation whether it was by the clocking station or as he said in post 30, he was in the car.
 
Where do I start?

By drinking or coming to work under the influence he's broken The Health & Safety at Work Act 1974, specifically section 7 (failure to maintain the well being of yourself or others), e.g if he'd been operating machinery he may have killed himself or others due to the influence of the drink. This is a criminal offence, of which the company can be prosecuted.

As soon as he told you about his antics you were compelled to act, due to the Management of Health and Safety at Work Regulations 1999, to prevent a serious incident in work, and prevent the criminal act and breach of the HASAW as mentioned ^

If it were me, I'd have pulled him to one side and sent him home, however it's done now, you did the right thing, but it could have gone better.
 
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