Soldato
On the flip side an employee doesn't drink before work and then tell a team leader at the door, irresponsible and could've bit albert in the arse more ways than one. (I'm not sure if it was in the door or in the car now.)
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On the flip side an employee doesn't drink before work and then tell a team leader at the door, irresponsible and could've bit albert in the arse more ways than one. (I'm not sure if it was in the door or in the car now.)
Indeed, yet he specifically stated that he reported to his supervisor that he was in the car when he was told. I can't see how that can be rephrased to mean he was next to the clocking in machine.
How can you have zero?
The body can produce alcohol naturally. That policy should be ripped to bits by a union.
Obviously zero above normal...
Normal is zero.
I know enough about legal obligations and company policies, I work for a big financial firm. However, that does not mean you follow them without compassion like some kind of robot... rules can be bent in certain circumstances. Only a complete point dexter would think otherwise.
The guy told him in the car, so there was still time to resolve the situation so that the guy didnt lose his job over what was undoubtedly a moronic action, and from the sounds of it a really exceptional case as the guy was a great and hard worker. Sometimes people screw up, and sometimes you can give them an allowance for it when no irrevocable harm has been done. We're all human.
As I saidd, OP did nothing "wrong", you could say he acted "properly" even... but he chose to handle it in a way that allowed for one outcome, when there were others available.
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But you just said the body can be above zero without drinking? Which one is it?
It's both.
The body CAN produce alcohol naturally, but normally it doesn't.
Which is why generally the limits can be extremely strict, but not zero.
The machines are calibrated and tested. The level is Zero, in all but a single case over 2000 tests carried out all have been zero in the first test.
The one that was not register a reading of four which reduced to zero on the second test.
It is a breath test, not a blood test. You would have to have imbibed alcohol for it to register, not produced it in your body.
Soldato
If he has a drinking problem and told his boss that he was an alcoholic i am sure they can;t fire him. For obvious H&S reasons they can't allow him into work so he woul dhave to be suspended, but I beleive they have to give him help / time to rehabilitate rather than just boot him out of the door ?
My knowledge of workplace law is quite poor though.
Our policies are very good when it comes to such things, if you have a drinking problem, for what ever reasons and own up. You will be protected and helped. Even if you don't own up, it is taken into account but obviously you won't be protected.
Man of Honour
You're not keeping up with it after his edit.
Although the OP said he was on the way to work where he could have easily turned round, he now says they were at work when he was told, so making it improbable that he would get back in the car and take him home.
I'm still 100% with the OP even though for some reason he has decided to completely change the story.
He even confirmed he was in the car in post #30 so I don't know what's going on!!!
Does he mean pulled over when he was walking to the clock?
Even if somebody says 'pulled over'?
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IMO the OP is obviously changing the facts to make him appear in a better light... lets think about this logically. He picked up his mate/worker... and the guy waited until he got all the way to work to tell him he'd had a few beers? Unlikely. Very unlikely. As the OP originally originally said, he likely told him soon after he got in the car (because you would tell the other person how you were doing within the first couple of minutes of greeting them, its natural behaviour), and then the OP sat chewing on it uncomfortably all the way to work, before deciding to dob him in. There is no good reason whatsoever that the OP would say he was told in the car, and then change it to say that it was in fact at work, unless he was trying to make us be more forgiving. To me it seems like pretty basic psychology anyway.
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Man of Honour
He even confirmed it in post #30
The instruments used in testing are not accurate enough to detect natural concentrations of alcohol in the body.
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Soldato
I have only read the OP as the thread is pretty long.
From that post alone, I think no wrong was done. Anyone drinking before work should be sacked. Anyone drinking before work when their job is operating machinery is a absolutely disgraceful.
You feel bad now OP, but think how bad you would feel if he had killed someone that shift.
From that post alone, I think no wrong was done. Anyone drinking before work should be sacked. Anyone drinking before work when their job is operating machinery is a absolutely disgraceful.
You feel bad now OP, but think how bad you would feel if he had killed someone that shift.
