I'm sure that the average credit card is stressed enough buying the CPU... even if the UK inflation figures are falling
-
Competitor rules
Please remember that any mention of competitors, hinting at competitors or offering to provide details of competitors will result in an account suspension. The full rules can be found under the 'Terms and Rules' link in the bottom right corner of your screen. Just don't mention competitors in any way, shape or form and you'll be OK.
Ivy Bridge Temperatures Could Be Linked To TIM Inside Integrated Heatspreader: Report
- Thread starter Twirlywoos
- Start date
I'm sure that the average credit card is stressed enough buying the CPU... even if the UK inflation figures are falling
Soldato
Looking at the decapped cpu there it would seem that theres no smd capacitors etc.. so it might even be more easily done than an old Athlon etc as theres little danger of knocking something off the pcb.
Just a case of avoid scratching the PCB and you're fine really isn't it?
Soldato
- Joined
- 7 Jan 2009
- Posts
- 6,613
Has intel made any comments on this problem yet?...ive not been following.
I just cant get over how Intel failed to see this issue.
I just cant get over how Intel failed to see this issue.
It's not really an issue for them though is it?
They cut costs by putting cheap TIM in = profit.
It has no noticeable detrimental affect at stock clocks meaning most people won't even notice.
People can't overclock as much as they should meaning they'll have to buy a new processor sooner when IB becomes obsolete = profit. Also if Haswell doesn't provide the performance boost they need they can always replace the sodler and they'll be hailed as great clockers.
AMD don't provide a viable alternative so they're not going to lose any business by doing this.
Soldato
Certainly looks that way!
Man of Honour
Associate
quite shocking really, the decision, and makes little to no sense unless IB is just to make a quick profit and is simply a stopgap IF they already have Haswell ready/fine tuning it and are confident EVERYONE will want one.
I am swaying towards the above and am beginning to be a little worried about my IB purchase now. If they skimped so hard on such a small relatively irrelevant costing component such as TIM and basically screwed the processors capabilities over with it then it Intel are simply laughing at our purchases and rendering the chip irrelevant in Intels chip progression plan, a simple cash quick scheme - maximise profit, minimise efficiency (so much energy wasted on heat!)
Need an accurate guide on how to do this CPU splitting or video, but need something less dangerous than a sharp blade (preferably) to minimize risk of screwing the CPU
Man of Honour
Maybe its a bit too cynical, but perhaps they did it deliberately to hamper its overclocking and make the next series seem more appealing.
I can't see it saving them a massive amount of money, there must be another reason for the change.
I can't see it saving them a massive amount of money, there must be another reason for the change.
Agree and overclocking is only a very small area of the market. AMD are basicly out the picture intel can do basicly what they want knowing they are front runners.
Simple buisness tbh cut costs as they know they have the market. even if the profits are small it is still a profit. Apart from the high temps ivy has been everything I have expected and I think people are expecting to much. The last thing intel want to do is make ivy super fast as this would make haswel look worse.
"The new IvyBridge K series processors also feature immense overclocking as well."
that was taken from the i7 3770k product description so ofc ppl will think it overclocks just as good as the SB's if not better so looks like false advertisement to me
that was taken from the i7 3770k product description so ofc ppl will think it overclocks just as good as the SB's if not better so looks like false advertisement to me
Soldato
let's all sue them together! get at least a few 100 sigs from these forums alone xD
Associate
or lets all just use less money/risk and start 'opening' our CPU's, applying good quality TIM/whatever you want, and DIY it? ^_^
It even seems like they made it 'easy' to open the CPU up, true enthusiasts would surely give it a go, but a tried and tested method needs to be sorted (less risk more success - no blade perhaps? sharpened CC edge as someone suggested? Metal Spatula?
We need more results, as soon as we have true confidence that this will work and is quite simple (1. Remove HIS, 2. Remove TIM, 3. Replace new TIM) then the better we will all be for it lol.
As someone said wont intels plan thing cover this kind of experimentation anyway? for $25?
Not sure about the insurance plan it's intel so it's going to have a lot of fine print right at the bottom and about a trillion clauses so they don't have to pay out too often. I would suggest a soft edged plastic spatula for the IHS removal. But that's just an idea and is how personally I would go about doing it
Soldato
ay, as every day passes the temptation to slice and dice my processor grows ever stronger xD waiting for my liquid pro to be delivered then i think i'm going to give it a butchers probably going to chop up and old credit card and sharpen one edge of it.
yea will have to look into this
probably going to chop up and old credit card and sharpen one edge of it.If intels plan covered it I'm all the more keen
yea will have to look into this
Associate
ay, as every day passes the temptation to slice and dice my processor grows ever stronger xD waiting for my liquid pro to be delivered then i think i'm going to give it a butchers
yea will have to look into this
you are effectively 'replacing TIM' inside the module, it is not fastened together hard as far as I know, surely this could be considered a self repair/performance improvement exercise?
I am very keen to know if the plan will cover it, if so then I definitely will give it a go.
Or to make Sandy Bridge appealing still, if Ivy Bridge was better in every department they would probably be lumbered with a whole heap of stock that they can't shift.
Soldato
Obviously Intel didn't want to make all there other CPU's suddenly seem irrelevant if Ivybridge could have reached 6.0Ghz. I don't think it was wrong for them to limit the overclocking, there a business, they have Sandy - E range for ultra performance, Ivybridge is mirange low power chip. Why should they give all this performance at £250... People expect to much imho. If you want ultra performance you have to pay for it and go Sandy E...
My 3770K @ 4.6Ghz gives similar performance to my old 2700K @ 5.0Ghz, surely this enough for most people?
My 3770K @ 4.6Ghz gives similar performance to my old 2700K @ 5.0Ghz, surely this enough for most people?