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Ivybridge underwhelming

Ive seen all the reviews and thoroughly read through them as well. Stulid using a Kuhler closed water loop was having decent temps at around 4.5Ghz on his IB chip think the max was something like 72ish but all the cores were running at about 65. which I could live with.
 
Pros and cons for Ivy bridge over Sandy bridge (in my opinion):

Pros
- Better intergrated GPU
- Better memory controller for higher speed RAM
- PCIE 3.0 support for better GPUs later on
- A 5%~ performance gain
- Less power consumption

Cons
- Produces more heat when overclocked and as a result, can't be clocked as high
- Priced higher
 
madteamkiller said:
Pros and cons for Ivy bridge over Sandy bridge (in my opinion):

Pros
- Better intergrated GPU
- Better memory controller for higher speed RAM
- PCIE 3.0 support for better GPUs later on
- A 5%~ performance gain
- Less power consumption

Cons
- Produces more heat when overclocked and as a result, can't be clocked as high
- Priced a little higher
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Fixed that for you.
 
madteamkiller said:
Pros and cons for Ivy bridge over Sandy bridge (in my opinion):

Pros
- Better intergrated GPU
- Better memory controller for higher speed RAM
- PCIE 3.0 support for better GPUs later on
- A 5%~ performance gain
- Less power consumption

Cons
- Produces more heat when overclocked runs hotter than the centre of the sun and as a result, can't be clocked as high
- Priced higher
- Only run certain stability tests in fear of meltdown
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Fixed for ya :D
 
madteamkiller said:
Pros and cons for Ivy bridge over Sandy bridge (in my opinion):

Pros
- Better intergrated GPU
- Better memory controller for higher speed RAM
- PCIE 3.0 support for better GPUs later on
- A 5%~ performance gain
- Less power consumption

Cons
- Produces more heat when overclocked and as a result, can't be clocked as high
- Priced higher
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I really am struggling here, between deciding on buying sandy or ivy to go with a Z77 board. :(

All those pros you listed, (even though I may never need the integrated GPU) do make a good case for getting a 3570K. My two and absolutely ONLY concerns are heat and overclocking. I suppose I'd be happy with a moderate overclock anyway. From what I've read, there seems to be vague opinion about a lower overclock on ivy being the same as a slightly higher overclock on sandy, is that true or false?
 
Im running 3770K @ 4.6Ghz 1.35 volts on air, temps are fine, performance is around what my 2700K got @ 5.0Ghz in benchys.

I think those that are moaning and whinging just expect to much. The 3770K is a great chip that when overclocked beats Intel's High end Sandy-E chips and does it using less power. I can't see much to be underwhelmed by tbh.

Great chips until Haswell next year.
 
Boomstick777 said:
Im running 3770K @ 4.6Ghz 1.35 volts on air, temps are fine, performance is around what my 2700K got @ 5.0Ghz in benchys.
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So it's true then that lower clocks on ivybridge are like higher clocks on sandybridge? So at 4.5Ghz on an ivybridge 3570K, I can expect that to be equivalent to around 4.9Ghz on sandybridge?
 
Merlin5 said:
So it's true then that lower clocks on ivybridge are like higher clocks on sandybridge? So at 4.5Ghz on an ivybridge 3570K, I can expect that to be equivalent to around 4.9Ghz on sandybridge?
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Essentially Ivy is faster clock for clock, so 4.5 on SB is slower than 4.5 on IB, i've seen varying opinions about the difference, but yes a 4.5 is more like a 4.7-4.9 on SB.

I pretty much always saw 4.5 clocks on SB in peoples sigs, not sure why they're all suddenly angry that IB does 4.5 no problem.... and is faster than SB 4.5... ah well.
 
Joshct said:
Essentially Ivy is faster clock for clock, so 4.5 on SB is slower than 4.5 on IB, i've seen varying opinions about the difference, but yes a 4.5 is more like a 4.7-4.9 on SB.

I pretty much always saw 4.5 clocks on SB in peoples sigs, not sure why they're all suddenly angry that IB does 4.5 no problem.... and is faster than SB 4.5... ah well.
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Not angry, I'm sure it is slightly faster in fact I'm positive it is, but no one shows any proof of exactly how much faster it is and people plucking wild figures out of the air is ridiculous.
 
Joshct said:
Essentially Ivy is faster clock for clock, so 4.5 on SB is slower than 4.5 on IB, i've seen varying opinions about the difference, but yes a 4.5 is more like a 4.7-4.9 on SB.

I pretty much always saw 4.5 clocks on SB in peoples sigs, not sure why they're all suddenly angry that IB does 4.5 no problem.... and is faster than SB 4.5... ah well.
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I think the biggest issue that people are not happy with the IB is the temp, as people were expecting with 32nm process going onto 22nm, it should be cooler than SB...but the result is actually the opposite.

Granted IB at 4.5GHz is around as fast as SB at 4.7-4.8GHz, but the thing is it is not cooler running than it. Comparing to a new £170 3570K, people can get a (new/2nd hand) 2500K off auction site for £120~£130, so the price difference is quite tempting, especially considering that it is not actually much slower when comparing overclock to overclock and temp.
 
Marine-RX179 said:
I think the biggest issue that people are not happy with the IB is the temp, as people were expecting with 32nm process going onto 22nm, it should be cooler than SB...but the result is actually the opposite.

Granted IB at 4.5GHz is around as fast as SB at 4.7-4.8GHz, but the thing is it is not cooler running than it. Comparing to a new £170 3570K, people can get a (new/2nd hand) 2500K off auction site for £120~£130, so the price difference is quite tempting, especially considering that it is not actually much slower when comparing overclock to overclock and temp.
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That's why I chose SB a few days before the IB launch. There's not much in it, but I went with the known rather than the unknown (and the quieter option ;))
 
hyperst said:
no one shows any proof of exactly how much faster it is and people plucking wild figures out of the air is ridiculous.
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Below is my rig with 2700K @ 5.0Ghz @ 1.5+ volts.

Below that is my rig with 3770K @ 4.6Ghz @ 1.35 volts.

Performance is within error % of each other, 4.6 Ivy = 5.0 Sandy for me.


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Ollie1132 said:
IB has been proven to be 3-5% faster than SB.
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In other words, buying a SB for ~£30 less is not a bad move. If you are overclocking, you'll not need to spend as much on your cooling if you want to take the SB option close to it's limit, so that's more money saved. IB is certainly not a "no brainer" for those upgrading from previous gen CPUs.

In other words, for most of us here, IB is "whatever".
 
Pretty much. SB is well I want 5Ghz on around the same temps as IB 4.8Ghz with air cooling. Thats it really. The 4.8Ghz IB is effectively the 5Ghz SB performance wise. IB for those from pre SB CPU's is a big step up. My IB is actually running really beautifully even though my heatsink needs a reseat and Im only on 4.3Ghz.
 
Not a troll, but it doesnt take a genius to work out from the reviews that Ivy B was not worth upgrading to from i7.
Also what a boring release! Z77 motherboards available weeks before... NDA's galore.. zzzzzzzzzzzz
 
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