Jailbreaking now illegal...

pumaz said:
People will care if Apple start detecting JB iphones and deactivating them or something.
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Jailbreaks are usually broken when a new software update is released, as it stands.

This changes nothing unless you can prove they are doing it pro-actively :o
 
vonhelmet said:
The dmca doesn't apply outside the US so you don't need to panic just yet.

Also, I assume that when people say view bought the iphone they mean bought it as a pay as you go handset, rather than on a contract. If it's on contract, then the TOS probably say you can't modify the software, which is fair enough and you're in breach of your contract if you do. Conversely, even if it is on pay as you go, and you did literally pay for the handset, that still doesn't mean you can expect it to work properly if you modify it to work outside it's approved environment.
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The EU's copyright directive which contains the same clauses does though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EU_Copyright_Directive#Technological_measures

As for the behaviour from Apple, what else is to be expected from them? This sort of thing is classic apple behaviour, but somehow it goes unnoticed by the same people that would generally be all over microsoft if they tried the same.
 
if everyone stops buying iphones, well tbh they're not the best product on the market they'll soon realise the consumer holds the power :D

MW
 
ethos said:
iTunes?
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To be honest I can see that being the only way, But there are plenty of people out there who would try to get around this in one way or another.

As for the behaviour from Apple, what else is to be expected from them? This sort of thing is classic apple behaviour, but somehow it goes unnoticed by the same people that would generally be all over microsoft if they tried the same.
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I agree totally, seems Apple can get away with anything cause they are so hip & cool. If this was Microsoft then you can guarantee there would be an uproar. I would never have had an iPhone if the option to jailbreak wasn't there & I say to people that the iPhone is only worth it if it is jailbroken but that is my opinion.
 
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Dolph said:
The EU's copyright directive which contains the same clauses does though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EU_Copyright_Directive#Technological_measures
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Ah, I had a feeling that something like that applied, but I wasn't certain. Even then, it's not clear that the directive prohibits reverse-engineering for reasons of interoperability (which is just about allowed by the DMCA) which jailbreaking would be covered by.

Dolph said:
As for the behaviour from Apple, what else is to be expected from them? This sort of thing is classic apple behaviour, but somehow it goes unnoticed by the same people that would generally be all over microsoft if they tried the same.
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Apple don't have the same monopoly on phones and apps for them, so the same rules don't really apply as to Microsoft and their stranglehold on the OS, Office, web browser, etc markets. While it can be argued that Apple hold a monopoly on music and music players, this is less of an issue now that Itunes music is no longer restricted and the Ipod can play all kinds of music, barring other stores DRM'ed media. But I digress...
 
I had mine jailbroken a while back but only so I could change the email alert tone because there are four of us in the office with iPhones. I didn't bother to jailbreak after the next update.

So this doesn't bother me in the slightest *shrug*
 
FIGHT THE POWER! :cool:

Hope this doesnt stop all the jailbreaking / unlocking - I am not paying the price for a new 3g, my 2g iphone that I got for £169 will do me fine :D
 
I find it a little amusing that the CEO of a company that is actively stopping tinkering and a little bit of Robin Hood type play was once the guy that built and sold boxes to skank free long distance from AT&T (now even more so amusing due to the iPhone's US carrier).

I've never been able to understand the halo surrounding the iPhone, but then again the halo has been created by the US press. In the US phones sucked. You paid for a contract and then you paid for the phone which is why compared to Europe the US are still far behind in mobile technology. Then the iPhone came along and in the US it was amazing. It has features and technology that people in the US were (and still are) going nuts for.

Apple brought it to the UK, but here in the UK mobile technology was already pretty advanced. But then all the lemmings (I hate to say it but that is what any 1st Gen iPhone buyer is: a lemming) bought a sub-standard phone with a flashy interface and an Apple logo. For me that was the start of this arrogant, prickish Apple.

They knew that in Europe a phone of that calibre would have to have 3G and would need to be free or close enough on a £35/month contract. Yet they also knew they could at least try to market an unsubsidised phone with a sub-par contract to a lot of people. It kinda worked but this is why we now have the new O2 price plans and the iPhone 3G. In the UK the 2G iPhone should never have been released!

Now they exert too much control over their phone, and the App Store is a joke unless they create clear rules that they have to follow. Rather than a "oh, we'll just do what we want" attitude.

I, for one, hope the iPhone dies quickly. It'll give Apple the lesson it now sorely needs to learn.
 
How does it exactly infringe copyright ??? by alterning to bootloader ??? That is like adding a supercharger to your engine, does that infringe copyright too?

I bought my iphone, no contract, i am on orange PAYG, I am going to jailbreak it and jailbreak it I shall.
 
Thread title is just a touch misleading. Just because Apple say it's illegal doesn't make it so and even if it did it's not enforceable.
 
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