January Transfer Window 2012/2013 Season Rumours/Signings

Bit surely after a few windows we would if found someone by now :D

Yes injuries have highlighted our weak squad. How many times has cabaye and tiote played together 4?

Due to lack of defenders antia has played lb/rb but has seemed to be settled in a cm role and looks a decent buy.

Debuchy deal was rumoured to fail due to a difrence in 1 or 2 million in the clubs value in the summer.

We let a lot if players go on big wages last summer and never really replaced them.

Best/smith/DannyG etc that's over 100grand off the wage bill. Xisco is 50k left for 6months so there should be room there.
 
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Bit surely after a few windows we would if found someone by now :D

Yes injuries have highlighted our weak squad. How many times has cabaye and tiote played together 4?

Due to lack of defenders antia has played lb/rb but has seemed to be settled in a cm role and looks a decent buy.

Debuchy deal was rumoured to fail due to a difrence in 1 or 2 million in the clubs value in the summer.

We let a lot if players go on big wages last summer and never really replaced them.

Best/smith/DannyG etc that's over 100grand off the wage bill. Xisco is 50k left for 6months so there should be room there.

Okay, when Utd drop 100k off the wage bill, while making profit every year they can expect to replace them.... the money you were spending on Smith, Xisco... was the money that but for Ashley would have seen the club do a Rangers. You can't expect to get rid of Smith, on a huge wage, which was contributing to making a loss, who didn't play anyway and instantly expect to replace him.

Its not a **** up, you are almost certainly NOT going to get relegated, but even had you spent 20mil on two CB's, you STILL could have got relegated. Hence running the club with some profit is sensible. You've had years, and years, and years, and YEARS of HUGE losses, one 6 month period turning a very minor profit doesn't suddenly mean you can dump 20mil more on wages because you feel like it. A sensible club will take marginal profitability, and build up some cash in the bank, then and ONLY then start thinking about pushing on.

As for CB's, its been as clear as going for other targets that you have been going for them, a hint, anyone can buy a CB any time, easily, getting good ones is a different story. Arsenal went and blew 6-8 mil on Squillaci and 2-3 mil a season on wages on him, do you want to do that or actually get someone good? How much time did you spend going after Carroll, in all likelyhood none at all. I can't see how at anything short of a free transfer and an immediate halving of the wage he was on would he fit in with the other transfers Newcastle have made. They didn't break the bank for Cisse, or Ba, or Arfa, but you think they would on a player 1/10th as good as them? Its a media story, both because papers can't come up with anything original and because a lot of fans like a good home town player so it makes sense for the club to pretend they would have him back.

Maybe he turns into the best striker in the world in 5 years, but he won't come to Newcastle because 5 years before(now basically) Newcastle laughed at reporters suggesting he could come back. You don't burn bridges, most players don't do this or managers, or owners, etc.

AFAIk both Gael and Anita have played full back before joining Newcastle and were decent there, but neither has seemingly worked out... though its a bit early to judge.

First few games from Anita were pretty woeful, but that happens to loads of players who aren't in form due to not playing, the team as a whole was playing pretty woefully and so was he at right back. 2 months later with a bit of form he might be a solid player at right back, or left back, who knows. Currently with Cabaye injured and Tiote missing loads of games midfield is where he's playing and he's not doing bad.

As of yet Gael is turning out pretty good and Anita is coming on quite well, meaning you bought two players who seem to do a good job defensively, hardly a travesty of a transfer window. You tried to get a CB and couldn't get who you wanted, tried to get a RB and couldn't get who you wanted.

I've pointed out before, due to europe/cups you've played over the same period till just before xmas, some 40% more games, with unfortunately injuries and a constantly changing team in large part due to injuries.

Sideshow bob is clearly a very good CB, but he looks crap currently because the team isn't in form and the defence hasn't been settled, Simpson looks a patch on where he was last year, etc. All these things effect you, injuries + 40% more games in the same space of time + ever changing line up all mean you've been under performing. THe quality is still there, the performance in the past 4-6 weeks have improved pretty drastically, being very unlucky in the past few games to fall apart late in games.

Look who is around Newcastle, do Villa have the quality to dramatically improve, injured top players to come back, no, Wigan, no, QPR, no, Southampton/Reading, no. Do really any of them have spending power, or playing pulling power to get in a significant change in their squads in Jan, QPR alone really... but that will merely unsettle the team once again and screw them up more than help.

With Cabaye back and two defenders signed its HIGHLY likely Newcastle will be fighting for a Europa spot rather than relegation in 3 months time.

Newcastle will be a yo-yo club for a few years, up and down the table, expecting anything less is being hugely naive and insanely greedy for the club. You only just came back up from relegation, from 100+mil of debts, from a terrible bunch of managers loading debt for years on a club. You've JUST got out from under that and the fans suddenly think you should be a top 6 club every year and anything less is failure?

Newcastle will yo-yo up and down, you have a manager and owner who want financial stability, not a daft suicidal run at a top 4 spot, and that means sensible, economical, safe spending, not splurging every year.

You haven't suddenly become vastly more profitable from your first year up to this year, tv money isn't vastly different(will be in a year or two) and money from going up the table is pretty minor. You were WELL above a safe spending level for a prem league club and you've reduced that to just profitable, not 20mil a season spare. Your manager/owner previously acted like spoiled kids and almost destroyed the club, you've just become profitable and the fans are suddenly exactly as they were before, throwing the dummy out the pram because of a perceived lack of spending... which the club can't afford.

The club will improve over time, but that means great years achieving beyond their means(like last year) and crap years where they under achieve, somewhat like this year. You're 10 points behind where you were last season 10, not 30, and thats with 9 European games, travel and injuries all over the pitch, get some perspective. If you were in the same position but had no european games, and no injuries you could expect improvement, expecting no regression with vastly more games and injuries to most key players is ridiculous.
 
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I suppose its too much to hope Fergie sobers up and finally realises we need a top quality midfield enforcer who can shield the defence?
 
Newcastle got Ba on a free and cheap contract. 29 goals later they are selling him for £7m.

Great business and Ba gets to see whether he's truly a world class striker.
 
If the rumours are true & we're selling Sturridge then buying Ba and still having enough left over for a bag of chips then that's great business.
Ba is miles better than Torres at the moment & he's proven he can score against everyone in the PL so the only gamble is his knees but at that price it's easily a gamble worth taking.
Falcao isn't going anywhere until the summer so we might get another striker in too, God knows we need them.
Hopefully we can sort out a deal with SFL as well, he's always said he wants to finish his career with us but if he gets a stupid offer from abroad you can't blame him if he takes it at his age.
I've heard whispers of JT getting sold too, I know the club are conscious of their image and they might think that's a way of improving it.
 
I know all that dm but at the end of the day no matter how much you scout a player you still Got a take a risk on weather he can settle in a New league.

Last season both Williamson and Taylor where injured at the same time and we where messing about with Simpson, r.taylor, perch as cb at times.

I remember Pards saying once smith is off our books that will free up 2 places in our squad last season.

With our policy we don't buy 30 year old's on high wages so if they don't work out its not to hard to ship out.

The club said Strength in depth was not good enough last season and we have even more games to play this season (pards/chairman)


anyhows am totally over the moon!!! Debuchy!! To good for us but lest we have him for a few seasons
 
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The Fergie alcoholic dross is bad enough from rival fans, have some respect.

Stop bring so precious.

I don't think he meant it like that.

You're right, he probably meant it as a joke :eek:


I will not be beaten by your mountain of text this time :p

I'm all for running a club sensibly, I'm all for turning a profit but you need to speculate to accumulate at times. Clearing nearly 200k off the wage bill last summer and still not spending 30mill odd we have off Carroll isn't sensible. I'm not saying saying ***** 30mill on a player at 150k a wel but a few signing at 15-20mill at around 120-150k (which is how we operate) is what we needed and we held back for a mill here or there, like in Debuchery case.

Also you saying we can't be relegated, that's what we all said the year we got relegated :p
 
Ba to Chelsea off

Where does this leave him now? Personally I want him to go now, I'm sick of the uncertainty and rumours surrounding him. Give Cisse the centre forward role and get Debuchy + CB in.
 
Ba to Chelsea off

Where does this leave him now? Personally I want him to go now, I'm sick of the uncertainty and rumours surrounding him. Give Cisse the centre forward role and get Debuchy + CB in.

Same I'm sick of the disruption, constant will he won't he, just go.

Any season given for it getting called off?
 
Same I'm sick of the disruption, constant will he won't he, just go.

Any season given for it getting called off?

Think we offered him the right wage package 80k his agents where happy but they still wanted the clause in it :/

Just hope it's quick and we can move on.
 
Same I'm sick of the disruption, constant will he won't he, just go.


Really though?

I'd put up with the disruption if it meant having a player around longer who has scored 13 goals in the PL this season, especially with Newcastle hanging 3 pts above the bottom 3.

If he goes then its fair to say you lot could be in more trouble.
 
Why would Chelsea sign Demba? They have enough forwards. I'm interested to see who we (arsenal) sign. Hopefully Zaha because if ****ing United sign him and he turns out to be as good as ronaldo, crazy de ja vu would happen
 
Really though?

I'd put up with the disruption if it meant having a player around longer who has scored 13 goals in the PL this season, especially with Newcastle hanging 3 pts above the bottom 3.

If he goes then its fair to say you lot could be in more trouble.

He could leave at the very last moment in the transfer window and leave us with nout.
 
Everton being strongly linked with a move for Lescott.

Should be great for us, however it could mean that the door is open for someone to snap up Heitinga.

I don't want him back on what will be stupid wages for his ability. He's not coming back for 50k per week so it's unlikely anything more than we pay £40k and city make up the rest for the remainder of the year.

He was also carried by Jag in the year he got sold to city. For a player with a dodgy knee and now other injury problems I couldn't believe our luck in the money we got for him.

I have no idea why Mancini has fallen out with him, probably over Lescott speaking out against the system he was using. I'd rather we carried on with what we have and look elsewhere for a another future CB.
 
Wahhhhhhh don't get personal. :rolleyes:

Oh OMS /sighsmiley

Really though?

I'd put up with the disruption if it meant having a player around longer who has scored 13 goals in the PL this season, especially with Newcastle hanging 3 pts above the bottom 3.

If he goes then its fair to say you lot could be in more trouble.

the goals are great but the constant disruption can't be doing any good for the squad. I like Ba, I appreciate the job he's done and wouldn't begrudge him a move to a Chelski team he'd go with my best wishes for a job well done. But (there's always a but :p) I don't like the fact he's shown himself up as a big motivator for him bring money and he just wants more, fair enough and each to their own, but that attitude would be best gone for all parties involved.

I would love it if he signed a new deal and settled down though :)
 
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