January Transfer Window 2012/2013 Season Rumours/Signings

mmj_uk said:
I would have sympathy for Ferguson but IMO pricing players out of the market so that league rivals won't buy them (or will get robbed in doing so) is not in the spirit of the game either.

I don't know the details of this deal but it looks like Ferguson demanded £6m for Spurs to sign him knowing full well that Fryers would probably go abroad for peanuts if a deal wasn't made.
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Fryers was out of contract so if Spurs and Utd couldn't agree a deal between themselves then a tribunal would have decided the fee based on his development. Taggart's demands were meaningless in that case.

By moving abroad Fryers development fee was set by UEFA and worked out considerably less than what the tribunal would have ruled. Comolli was on the radio the other week talking about Tom Ince and said that the fee for him had he moved abroad (I'd imagine it would be similar for Fryers given neither had really broke into the first team) would have been less than €500k.

The reality is that Spurs have paid off Liege to sign Fryers on the cheap and still ended up getting him for less than a tribunal would have decided.
 
According to a piece in today's Telegraph, that's the sticking point. Blackpool value him at £6m which is what we've reportedly offered but when you take into account the sell on clause and Ince's personal cut of the deal, Blackpool are left with a little over £3m.
 
Sahin to Dortmund appears to be all but done and could be announced tonight. Can't say he'll be greatly missed - slipped down to 6th in the CM pecking order and was earning ~£80k per week.

It's a shame things didn't work out better though. On paper it seemed a great deal; a hugely talented player in need of games and a natural fit into how we were going to play. I'm not sure he fancied the fight though (rumours that he refused to play with a broken nose) and as a result I don't think Rodgers trusted him in his favoured deep lying midfield role. He had a couple of decent performances but other than that, games seemed to pass him by.

Maybe had he been our player we could have persevered with him, in the hope that he'd adapt but it didn't make sense with him only on loan.
 
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Gerrard's performances over the last month or so have been pretty good and I thought he was very good in the 2nd half of yesterday's game. He's still an excellent player but our issue right now is not individual players in our midfield but the balance of the 3 players that make it up.

I think the calls for dropping Gerrard are nuts. He clearly hasn't got the burst of pace he once had but he's still an excellent footballer and has a lot to offer. The issue is finding the right position for him in the side. I'd give him a free role in midfield to do as he pleases and have Lucas & Allen holding to shore things up but right now Lucas doesn't look fit and after a good first few months, Allen looks shot to pieces.
 
Newbie007 said:
So what your saying is he is a liability at this moment in time then :) I'm not convinced that Lucas and Allen can play together, they've had 5 or 6 games together now and I've yet to see any hint of an understanding between them.
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As I said above, the issue isn't the individual players but the balance of the midfield. And you're going to write off Lucas and Allen playing together in the future after a handful of games where 1 isn't fit after coming back from over a year out and the other needs a break?

Right now Henderson needs to be in the side to make up for the short-term issues with Lucas & Allen.
 
Lucas not being fit and able to fulfill his role as he should and Allen being shot to pieces aren't relevant?

Given the way Lucas was wrote off in the past and even Henderson (who now most fans are saying should be in the side), I think it's a bit hasty to start writing Allen & Lucas off as a partnership when they've barely played together and in the games that they have, neither is close to being at their best.
 
That's like saying Utd only performed in the first half because we were too tentative. It's easy to say but impossible to prove.

While Lucas can knock the ball about very well, he's not got the range of passing Gerrard has nor the ability to open sides up with one pass as frequently as Gerrard can. For all the criticism he's got this season, he's got more assists that anybody in the league and still chipping in with the odd goal despite playing in a deeper position.

He's still got all the ability in the world - his issue has always been finding the right position to get the best out of him.
 
That Norwegian cb who was meant to be joining Everton, Fulham and Utd is supposed to be having a medical ahead of a move to Liverpool tomorrow.
 
MrJohnSherry said:
Ahh right! Thought he didn't rate him or something, for some reason thought Azza supported Liverpool *runs* :P

Anyway, a guy on the RAWK forums reckons it isn't happening and it is just a rous to gather interest in him as it is well documented he will be leaving Molde. Who knows.
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He's meant to be starting training with us tomorrow so we'll know by then. And I'm not sure how the hell you thought Azza was a Liverpool fan. Admittedly he posts about us as much as Everton but he's very much an Evertonian.
 
syke said:
Zaha is an immense prospect and already very good
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Is he really that big a prospect? Whenever I've seen him he's never looked that good. Pigeon mentioned it the other day - Tom Ince (same age) is having a far better/more productive season than Zaha and is seemingly available at half the price.
 
syke said:
Zaha is involved in most of Palace's (Murray's) goals, not sure what his assists are, though.
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Zaha: 26 games, 5 goals, 4 assists in a team that's 4th in the league.
Ince: 25 games, 13 goals, 10 assists in a side that's 15th in the league.

edit: and I was never impressed with Ince when he was at Liverpool.
 
*whispers* Both Tony Barrett in the Times and the Liverpool Echo are reporting that we might make a move for Sneijder if he's prepared to take a heft wage cut.
 
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