Japanese Grand Prix 2014, Suzuka - Race 15/19

The longer this drags out with no official news makes me fear it's extremely serious.

You'd normally at least hear something about being critical but stable or similar fairly soon wouldn't you?

Nah it normally takes a good few hours, they won't release anything like that until they are comfortable with his condition. They could release some news only for something to go wrong.
 
Just seen a picture on Twitter showing waved green flags just before the Jules incident at the marshal's post directly above the Sutil incident, if that is the case, then what on earth were they thinking!!! Praying for you Jules, stay strong brother!

The marshal post was beyond the accident. The safety car was not out and it was a localised yellow at that point.

The green flag is waved at the next marshal point after the accident, so there's no problems with it.
 
It's pretty obvious that Bianchi has received some sort of head injury. As we've seen before with for example Schumachers skiing accident, there's no media friendly instantly package-able answer. It takes an indeterminate amount of time.

Assuming he's medically stable, it'll be hours before we hear anything at all. Even then it'll likely only be a confirmation.
 
Ot the nose went under then the roll hoop hit the truck.

If that was the scenario then it is grim.

That would be but the pictures don't seem to support this, the rool hoop looks (reasonably) intakes as does the front of the car. It is the back of the car that is seriously damaged and flattened.

Hopefully if the reports are correct that he received a blow to the head then it is some debris and akin to Massa's accident rather then a Senna type one.
 
Is there any video of the crash?

I didn't see Bianchi leave the circuit and was confused at the red flag.

Nothing was shown. Presumably though there was a TV camera focusing on that area given that Sutil had gone off, I would assume that the broadcast director made a quick call that it was a bad incident and not to show it at all.... especially when you think that even if they can't show a proper angle of an accident, they typically try and show the lead up to it.

It's bound to get out into the public domain though, simply because of the number of fans with cameras, again who would already have them trained on that area.
 
If this is a blunt force head trauma then we may well not know anything for quite a while. It's often a case of protracted monitoring of brain swelling and inter-cranial pressures and so forth. Something very similar happened to my mother in a car crash 15 years ago and she was unconscious in intensive care for a week afterward.
 
That would be but the pictures don't seem to support this, the rool hoop looks (reasonably) intakes as does the front of the car. It is the back of the car that is seriously damaged and flattened.
The front of the chassis has scrapes and scratches gouged in it leading up to the cockpit opening, so clearly the car went under some part of the tractor. :(


Hopefully if the reports are correct that he received a blow to the head then it is some debris and akin to Massa's accident rather then a Senna type one.
Senna was hit by debris. The wheel and suspension separated from his car after hitting the wall and struck his helmet.
 
The front of the chassis has scrapes and scratches gouged in it leading up to the cockpit opening, so clearly the car went under some part of the tractor. :(

Only part of the car that went under the front loader was the rear axle and engine area, that's quite clear from the pictures, the nose of the car is up against the tire wall.

What it looks like to me is he went off and hit the tire wall first that did the damage to the front and side of the car and the car then spun around and the rear of the car went under the front loader.
 
Senna was hit by debris. The wheel and suspension separated from his car after hitting the wall and struck his helmet.

Senna died near instantly. A suspension wishbone went into his helmet.

If this is a blunt force head trauma then we may well not know anything for quite a while. It's often a case of protracted monitoring of brain swelling and inter-cranial pressures and so forth. Something very similar happened to my mother in a car crash 15 years ago and she was unconscious in intensive care for a week afterward.

Absolutely.

Unfortunately it's not very media friendly. They can't sell "We don't know".
 
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Senna died near instantly. A suspension wishbone went into his helmet.

Not officially he didn't. If that was so then the race would have been cancelled, Was the same with Ratzenburger, Was not "clinically" dead at the circuit. Under Italian law, if he had died at the scene, the event would have to have been cancelled.

Ooops, missed the near bit!
 
Ratzenberger did die instantly - they were unsuccessfully attempting resuscitation trackside from the moment they got him out of the car. Senna was clinically braindead, but his heart was still beating naturally - it was weak, but he was alive.

Sid Watkin's book, Life at the Limit, is a fascinating read into that fateful weekend.



Only part of the car that went under the front loader was the rear axle and engine area, that's quite clear from the pictures, the nose of the car is up against the tire wall.

If you've seen the pictures you'll have seen the damage on the top of the front of the car. Given the lack of significant sign of contact with the barriers, it's clear the front of the car hits the tractor too.
 
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Tobias Gruner on twitter is reporting that the Japanese police are at the track confiscating Bianchis car.

No idea what their protocol is over there could be normal procedure I suppose as an investigation will take place or could be more serious.
 
Was there a delay between Sutil's crash and calling safety car conditions?

Because if there was then that is a severe misstep on the steward's part. In those conditions any car going off should have been met with an instant safety car.

I think there will be lots of debate on this incident for quite some time.
 
Was there a delay between Sutil's crash and calling safety car conditions?

Because if there was then that is a severe misstep on the steward's part. In those conditions any car going off should have been met with an instant safety car.

I think there will be lots of debate on this incident for quite some time.
They didn't bring the safety car out till Bianchi crashed.

I rewatched the TV coverage of Sutils incident and I think Bianchi was either just in front or just behind him as he crashed as he was driving out of shot when they showed Sutil in the barrier. So it must have been the next time round he crashed at the same spot.
 
Was there a delay between Sutil's crash and calling safety car conditions?

Because if there was then that is a severe misstep on the steward's part. In those conditions any car going off should have been met with an instant safety car.

I think there will be lots of debate on this incident for quite some time.

What should happen it that drivers should slow down to speed where they are in full control of their car whilst going through a yellow flag zone. There's no excuse for going off under a yellow barring mechanical failure. In reality the drivers practically ignore yellows and the authorities let them get away with it. Throwing a safety car for every recovery is not the answer.
 
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