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Japanese Grand Prix 2014, Suzuka - Race 15/19
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That is misleading, I think the important thing is that the roll bar is in place and it appears the cockpit retained its integrity. Obviously it is serious but gives some hope that he will recover.
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Fingers crossed he is ok, but it isn't looking good 
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The whole situation about what happens when a car goes off in the rain needs looking at, in terms of car speeds before/at/after the incident, plus the timing of when marshalls attend the car that went off in the first place.
It is rather different to when a car goes off in the dry, but even then, the cars on track under waived yellows or even double yellows are being allowed to pass an incident far too fast.
It is rather different to when a car goes off in the dry, but even then, the cars on track under waived yellows or even double yellows are being allowed to pass an incident far too fast.
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Yes the roll bar appears to be there, remember the car was likely spinning so it didn't necessarily hit head on, it could have and maybe looks like from that picture it went in backwards and spun around maybe. There is no way for instance that it could have gone in first, gone underneath, NOT destroyed the roll bar area then taken off the area behind the roll bar.
I would suggest it hit sideways onto that tractor with the back end smashing the counter weight which spun the car into it's final position. If the back hits the counter weight and misses the role bar area, that isn't good but not as bad as it could have been.
I would suggest it hit sideways onto that tractor with the back end smashing the counter weight which spun the car into it's final position. If the back hits the counter weight and misses the role bar area, that isn't good but not as bad as it could have been.
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But then you have the problem of cars going at 100km/h, or whatever it is, whilst cars approaching from behind are going significantly faster than that. Obviously the ones behind are meant to slow down, but if there's a problem with them the subsequent impact could be.
But that is the same as entering the pit lane, you can have cars a fraction of a second apart heading into the speed limit line and they both have to slow to the same speed so, that is just part of racing. It's like any corner. It's not one car at the speed limit and the car behind going faster, they'd be the same speed and slow to the same speed. If drivers can't handle slowing down for a speed limit, they shouldn't be out on track.
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Some of the pictures still show the rear end of the car behind the roll hoop but that latest one doesn't :/
You would hope not. Not when a car is in a dangerous position, Marshalls on track and wet.
yeah i notice that as well,its all confusing.
i reckon they flip the shell (top cover) back on when lifting the car. not sure
Thing is there is no consistency, at the start they kept it out for 4-5 laps when the conditions were nowhere near as bad as towards the end, so why keep it out then but not bring it out later?
Looks like the top cover got ripped apart.
http://cache2.asset-cache.net/gc/45...3R7dMQRcD5Myv1vTJ7IO7ruJB6l1LGfLiTZ7HT2mmJQ==
It's nothing new, for the Sutil incident alone I don't think it warranted a safety car if he was ok. Otherwise you are going to have nothing but safety cars in wet races so you may as well not bother racing in the wet when it gets anything more than inters can handle.
Perhaps a better flag system where cars have to slow right down and racing cannot be resumed or they can't be passed until for example the next sector. Although knowing racing drivers they would use it to make up ground. Or do that stupid one hand off the wheel rubbish.
Hindsight.
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All these regulations on making the race cars safe and they seem to have overlooked the safety of auxiliary vehicles.
yes but what about this? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BzK4M_DCIAAZsN6.jpg
the cover looks fine to me. odd. i think this is a later photo where brandi have be removed from the car
I'd say the recovery vehicle had driven farwards in that shot. Looks like the engine area and rear of the car was wedged under the rear of the truck.