Japanese Grand Prix 2014, Suzuka - Race 15/19
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Another thing for the organisers to consider, Maybe Jackie Stewart could sponsor it.
Rule change. All mobile recovery plant to have skirts and or buffers around them while operating trackside of fixed barriers.
Sort of makes sense when you have acres of runoff area or tyre wall and armco barriers, then place a 5 tonne or more steel plate obstruction at the scene of a previous incident.
Rule change. All mobile recovery plant to have skirts and or buffers around them while operating trackside of fixed barriers.
Sort of makes sense when you have acres of runoff area or tyre wall and armco barriers, then place a 5 tonne or more steel plate obstruction at the scene of a previous incident.
Lorry trailers have barriers to stop cars going under them, and those trucks they use on motorways to divert you round temporary Roadworks have skirts, so it's definitely possible.
The only problem is that it's the circuits own equipment, regulation would mean either the FIA have to supply all recovery vehicles (and maybe then all drivers?) to F1 races, or they impose a large cost onto all F1 tracks to replace their recovery vehicles.
The only problem is that it's the circuits own equipment, regulation would mean either the FIA have to supply all recovery vehicles (and maybe then all drivers?) to F1 races, or they impose a large cost onto all F1 tracks to replace their recovery vehicles.
You can't really see the car (if its the video with the big yellow arrow pointing out the position), its hidden , you can just about make it out, but its mainly marshals and medics waving, and the green flag being waved
Edit: OK different video
Hope he pulls through
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My ref, to Jackie Stewart was in relation to the drivers action in the sixties and seventies re unsafe tracks. F1 should have the money or the will to impose this safety action on the tracks. It is one of the richest televised sports and if they are so keen on maximising safety of the participants as they say, it should be a concern.
Neither will KM right now or anytime quick. If they have signed Alonso they will want nothing more than a very capable no2 to take points away from rivals if they have a very good car and to score decent points if Alonso wins.
I'd put more money on that being Button than KM. The old man makes him look average on race days. A driver few here rate is making a young guy look worse. Heikki might have actually done better and he was against Lewis!
The problem isn't just his head getting hit, but the massive deceleration wrenching the top of his spine from his skull (which is what the HANS device is supposed to stop in a front on crash), and his brain being bounced off the inside of his skull. A good looking crash helmet doesn't really really tell you much except that he didn't get an obvious direct hit to the head.
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I know, however a really bad looking helmet is usually a big sign that it's game over, from some of the early pictures and what could have happened it wouldn't have been that surprising if his head was massively damaged externally leaving him almost no chance. At least that hasn't happened and he has a chance.
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The same Jackie Stewart, the apparent driver safety advocate, who simply continued racing while another driver desperately and fruitlessly called on his peers to help save another from burning alive?
Exactly.
The problem with the recovery vehicles is they are not owned by the circuit a lot of the time.
For instance JCB hire the machines for Silverstone and gift them to them for the weekend along with a fully trained engineer etc. Marketing.
For instance JCB hire the machines for Silverstone and gift them to them for the weekend along with a fully trained engineer etc. Marketing.
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Watching again, there was plenty of discussion about the tractor looking low at the rear, but on the HD TV footage you can clearly see the right-rear of the tractor is completely flat. Other than the fact it takes a heck of a lot of force to puncture a tractor tyre to have it deflate so quickly, it suggests Bianchi's car went under the left side of the tractor and his car got all the way to the right-rear of the tractor with sufficient force to puncture it the tyre, before most of the car emerged out of the rear of the tractor and came to rest.
If Bianchi comes out of this intact, and the reports are positive, he's been an incredibly lucky boy.
If Bianchi comes out of this intact, and the reports are positive, he's been an incredibly lucky boy.
Precisely.
Are you kidding? It was the worst type of weather... it was at that terrible point where it isn't clear whether to be on inters or full wets and indeed some drivers were on wets and some on inters. It's in these conditions drivers can be caught out most because it's difficult to know what to expect from the tyres.
The FIA or FOM or whoever can demand it as a requirement for hosting the race. I assume there are many things the must be provided by the circuit to host the race, they can just add safety skirts to it.
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The tires also change year to year(not in particular compared to last year but compared to other severe weather races several years ago), Vettel was talking about the extreme wets really having an incredibly narrow window or working between not wet enough and too wet, they are only useful for a very small amount of water, it's about car design too. These things change year on year so one track with the same weather in two different years can be drivable one year and not the next anyway as ride height, tire compound/tread design change.
The difficulty and danger though is in changing conditions, as it gets wetter you end up with a point where everyone is on a tire not suitable for the weather, regardless of how good drivers are you can't predict if rain will get worse, stay the same or improve. One lap the inters work why would you pit, the next they don't and you change, but you are exceptionally vulnerable for that lap or two when you go past the pits because the last lap was absolutely fine then you hit a puddle that literally wasn't there less than two minutes ago and you instantly aquaplane off.
Constant wet, staying on extremes, you can do fine, you can drive in worse weather, it's the not knowing when it gets worse that is the dangerous point.
The difficulty and danger though is in changing conditions, as it gets wetter you end up with a point where everyone is on a tire not suitable for the weather, regardless of how good drivers are you can't predict if rain will get worse, stay the same or improve. One lap the inters work why would you pit, the next they don't and you change, but you are exceptionally vulnerable for that lap or two when you go past the pits because the last lap was absolutely fine then you hit a puddle that literally wasn't there less than two minutes ago and you instantly aquaplane off.
Constant wet, staying on extremes, you can do fine, you can drive in worse weather, it's the not knowing when it gets worse that is the dangerous point.
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KM is in his rookie year and only 40 points behind Button.