Jeffrey Epstein

jcr said:
and nobody seems to care about all the cctv dvd evidence that just disappeared from his New York place the day after he was arrested.

or explain all the pedo codewords in the emails of Podesta and co
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The CCTV evidence is about the only potentially dodgy stuff, and that's apparently really really common in US jails, pretty much any CCTV set up to protect the prisoners* is bottom of the priority list when it comes to security systems needing repairs, CCTV for the protection of the staff gets a slightly higher priority but even that often isn't working properly because so many of their prisons are run for profit, and they've basically got so many people locked up.

The "pedo codewords" is pretty much pure "look for a pattern and if you squint hard enough, and make up the code words as needed you'll find them" territory, Pizza is pretty much the "go to" for takeaways that can be eaten whilst working (no utensils, no sauces, no crockery at most a paper plate or napkin), and many offices that have people working late pretty much run on them.
There used to be a lot of jokes about how offices and start ups would run on pizza and coke.

So when you start looking for "patterns" containing "code words" themed about pizza you're going to find them in pretty much any office communication where they're discussing what to order in as food, and you can create a lovely big load of nonsense about how different toppings mean different things because you keep seeing people mentioning such suspicious things as wanting a "margarita" or "meat feast", or a "double pepperoni".
About the only suspicious word in those "pizza emails" is probably Anchovy, I mean how could anyone eat those.

If this CT had been in the UK you'd probably have had to substitute Pizza related words for stuff you get at the chippy or the Indian takeaway. in which case you'd have the idiots going on about how "look, he keeps asking for a Chicken Tikka" or "that guy keeps wanting a battered sausage, that's obviously code for beating a boy".
About the only reason the Qnuts don't latch onto something else as the code, is that food is probably the only thing that everyone in an office working late will have different preferences for, and be sending regular messages about that aren't extremely obviously work related (I suspect if you tried hard enough you could work out a code that suggested that people's signatures on here were code words for illegal activity, after all what is an XP1700 or a Haswell).

It's Nostradamus levels of nonsense.



*That is probably the real scandal in the Epstein death, not that the CCTV wasn't working, but that many Americans (and unfortunately brits) seem to think that anything should go in regards to prisoner safety in jail and that no effort should be made to protect them, nor that it should be a problem when the guards actively abuse them. It's sadly funny watching so many MAGA republicans getting their knickers in a twist at the "inhuman treatment of political prisoners" when their fellow idiots in prison/awaiting trial for the J6 violence are getting the standard US prison experience, or realistically, actually better as most of them are IIRC in federal facilities that at least meet a minimum standard.
 
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jcr said:
and nobody seems to care about all the cctv dvd evidence that just disappeared from his New York place the day after he was arrested.

or explain all the pedo codewords in the emails of Podesta and co
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And here we have someone who has fully bought into Pizzagate. Don't head for that pizza place armed, one of your fellow believers has already taken care of that, I think he's still doing time for the effort, got to save those poor kids aka Hawaiian, Margarita, Pepperoni Hot.
 
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I don't really get caught up in pizzagate stuff, other than the fact I believe there is something there. I feel like every truth in media is somewhere in-between the headlines from both sides.
I didn't realise that the ArsTechnica guy was known as DrPizza... I see from just a quick search that there was another ABC news journalist facing life for his crimes in this area.

For me, of course it's ridiculous to make claims that people are drinking children's blood or doing some magic weird stupid stuff. However, some people online seem hell bent on twisting literally anything questioning ANYTHING into this style of nonsense. I've always wondered about the mental state of these people. Perhaps they are part of the problem?
If it wasn't a problem at all, then why are these folks so invested in it? Extremely light accusations are turned into comical ridicule completely unrelated to the main accusation. Defend everyone guys. They're all great.
 
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Emlyn_Dewar said:
I don't really get caught up in pizzagate stuff, other than the fact I believe there is something there. I feel like every truth in media is somewhere in-between the headlines from both sides.
I didn't realise that the ArsTechnica guy was known as DrPizza... I see from just a quick search that there was another ABC news journalist facing life for his crimes in this area.

For me, of course it's ridiculous to make claims that people are drinking children's blood or doing some magic weird stupid stuff. However, some people online seem hell bent on twisting literally anything questioning ANYTHING into this style of nonsense. I've always wondered about the mental state of these people. Perhaps they are part of the problem?
If it wasn't a problem at all, then why are these folks so invested in it? Extremely light accusations are turned into comical ridicule completely unrelated to the main accusation. Defend everyone guys. They're all great.
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There are no shortage of people abusing children. I've no doubt there are people in powerful jobs doing it. What I don't buy is Democrats were discussing it in emails using pizza names as code words for the children. This whole thing came from 4Chan and 8Chan along with the lunacy that is Qanon. People should remember that.
 
Come on folks, it’s because the internet detectives are bored, need some excitement or are just ”needy”. Many of these people live horrifically economically deprived lives with nothing else to occupy their curiosity, like an interesting job, and some need someone to blame for whatever. That’s why it starts in the US mainly.

On the other hand I am sure these people would say I’m a corporate stooge, because, well whatever. I do think there should be both a technical and IQ test to get an internet license though. Amiright????
 
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Colonel_Klinck said:
You guys believe this conspiracy theory but then expect others to find the evidence you've clearly seen to be convinced of something that sounds so bat **** crazy. Ok then :rolleyes:
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There is something that makes people distrust anything that is 'mainstream' but instantly trust something said by some random person or people because it sounds plausible or chimes with their 'beliefs'.

The 'mainstream' are part of 'the system' but the other people aren't, therefore they are more trustworthy.
 
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jcr said:
do you have trouble reading woolfie? i never mentioned anything about prison cctv.
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No I don't have trouble reading, but I do sometimes skim through ct related stuff, as usually it's the same old nonsense worded slightly differently, my bad in this case.

What CCTV evidence from his flat went missing?
And was it "missing" or simply not relevant, as one of the things I've noticed a lot with the Pizza gate type stuff is how much stuff that is utterly non relevant gets brought up as "proof" of something "dodgy" when it's not, for example why would the investigators release footage where nothing happened, let alone legal issues with footage where nothing illegal was going on but private individuals are shown in circumstances where they had the legal right to privacy (generally automatically assumed to be in effect if someone is inside a private residence or building in areas the public do not have access to*).

About the only mention I can find of CCTV footage from his apartments is that some was released during the trial of maxwell?
I very much doubt that he kept CCTV footage of anything incriminating to himself, or anyone he might have been dealing with on his system, and most systems automatically record over anything that's not been marked to save when the storage starts to fill up (even stuff marked to save can be recorded over depending on the system if storage is getting full and there is no unflagged stuff). So expecting any CCTV system to have nice juicy stuff is being rather hopeful, and even if stuff does "go missing" there can be simple reasons for it, for example IIRC police incompetence (one force turned out to have lost years worth of rape kits/not sent them for testing from memory).

*Legally that bit is important, as "private" property can be considered "public" for certain things under certain conditions. The most obvious in the UK is a farmers field or similar, where if there is a gate that is closed and no members of the public have access, it's "private", but if you open that gate and allow people in for an event it becomes "public" for the duration and the farmers son now has to have a license and insurance to drive that tractor around the field, the same sort of thing IIRC holds true for cameras and recordings, in a private residence you have an expectation of privacy that includes not having video of you being played to the public for fun and to satisfy the curiosity of the bored.


GIBURROWS said:
You've got access to Google right?
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When you make a claim it's often nice to provide proof.

Also "FBI codewords" doesn't mean much as IIRC the FBI etc all use a variety of codewords at different times, and I'd be amazed if at some point in the last 115 years the FBI didn't use food related phrases or words as a code in an investigation (Mafia would probably be an all too obvious one), and there is a high probability that they reuse the same "codewords" multiple times (historically that has been a real issue in the military and intelligence), possibly simultaneously in different investigations at different offices.
I can quite see the FBI having used food related terms in something like a sex trafficking case (or for that matter, drugs, guns, stolen goods...), as it would make a certain kind of sense and be hard to realise what they were talking about out of context, but even then that doesn't mean anything with regards to pizza gate unless you can actually provide a link that isn't "well they used those words, and those words were used in emails and messages about what people wanted to eat".
The fun part about creating a conspiracy theory that sounds possible is usually to include just enough factual stuff to bait it and draw people in, so you hear about a case where the FBI used certain terms and you might, if you wanted to create a nice juicy CT use those terms as the basis for your CT and build the "evidence" for it up around them, in the hope that your marks will see that the FBI used those words at some point and think it's proof for the nonsense you're working on.
 
sigma said:
There is something that makes people distrust anything that is 'mainstream' but instantly trust something said by some random person or people because it sounds plausible or chimes with their 'beliefs'.

The 'mainstream' are part of 'the system' but the other people aren't, therefore they are more trustworthy.
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One of the normal reasons tends to be a CT that is simple is much more comforting to believe in that a truth that is more complex or totally random.

It's the reason you get so many about celebrity deaths, for example is it more comforting to be reminded that you can easily die in a car accident no matter how rich your are, or how good the car is, or is it more comforting to think that it couldn't have been an accident, it must have been some massively convoluted scheme because the ex of a royal is going out with a muslim and the "establishment" doesn't want that. Not that she got in a car with a drunk driver rather than wait for a sober one, was being driven at speed and didn't bother to wear a seatbelt, and the only passenger to survive was the only one who had the brains to put a seatbelt on.
 
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