Joe Rogan and Spotify
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Best I could find quickly:
As per the official figures, the deaths due to household disinfectants in the months January and February 2020 increased by 5% and 17% respectively while the months of March and April have seen an astronomical rise of 93% and 121%.
After Trump made the comment.
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Good luck in this discussion, the issue is, the people who argue that people should be able to hear anything and make their minds up are typically those that prove the exact opposite.
Ah well, we have to accept that stupid people exist in the world. It is what it is.
From the video on the telegraphs YouTube channel, The bleach comment was made on or around the 24th April. So the increase you have noted has nothing to do with his comments.
That’s not even talking about the misleading nature of percentages or the fact that your post doesn’t specify what is being compared to when it talks about these increases.
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Actually Roar I've followed potholer54 channel for a long time. His real name is Peter Hatfield, he's a trained geologist and author/journalist. He wrote for New Scientist for years, The Telegraph, The Lancet, the Guardian, the BBC. His YouTube channel mainly debunks bad science or those passing off their content as science. His channel isn't monetised, he doesn't have a Patreon or the like and asks for anyone who might want to donate to do it to a charity instead. You might find his content very educational and he explains why Hancock if a fraud far better than I can because he understands the subject in depth. You always tell us to watch videos like Tucker Carlson when you post them, why don't you watch one of someone debunking lies rather than telling them?
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Its not stupidity, its a metal health thing.
Why are we having this massive increase in people needing to find validation in conspiracy theories and fake science?
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Potholer is pretty legit tbf. I always enjoy his crocoduck awards.
You're not going to change anyone's mind on a forum, especially GD. Think of it as a retirement home. People licking windows, staring into space etc.
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I did say it was the best I could find quickly. If it's wrong then it is wrong. I'm not going to write a thesis on it.
I did hastily copy from a website so perhaps the rise pre-April was when people were sharing the idea online/in the medial and then it spiked when Trump mentioned it in April?
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Is that a problem? JRE have many, many guests with alternate viewpoints to mainstream narratives or with new and informative research. It also hosts many who simply crack jokes and talk nonsense about serious subjects they have no expertise on. Why do you have a problem with who is on JRE? You kicked up a fuss about Robert Kennedy Jnr as well, because... who knows
I have no problem with people of different view points. There aren't different view points when it comes to the snake oil that Hancock sells though. He passes off lies as truth, nonsense as fact. Everyone should have a problem with that because truth and facts actually matter and he doesn't do it for laughs or entertainment he just does it for $. He has every right to say it but people who have him on their shows should push back on it.
I kicked off over Kennedy because Joe gave him a platform and did nothing to push back on his nonsense. The man is a loon and a liar who spreads dangerous anti science. He sat there and said he'd never told anyone not to take a vaccine, he said that on numerous platforms, he said it under oath in Congress.
His quote from the “Health Freedom for Humanity” podcast in 2021
What the heck have I walked into with this thread?
Whether you believe what someone like Graham Hancock says about science or history or not is up to you. It's your opinion. Personally I take everything I see on TV or read with a hefty pinch of salt although I do find his theories fascinating to think about. If he's utterly debunked then so be it, but the more you try to stop someone from speaking what you consider nonsense, the more the ideology can spread and take hold as it goes unchallenged.
What I will say though is that we have to remember it was once the scientific fact that the Earth was the centre of the universe and if I remember correctly, to deny it was heracy. The point being that our beliefs and understanding of the world can and should change if based on factual new discoveries.
Whether you believe what someone like Graham Hancock says about science or history or not is up to you. It's your opinion. Personally I take everything I see on TV or read with a hefty pinch of salt although I do find his theories fascinating to think about. If he's utterly debunked then so be it, but the more you try to stop someone from speaking what you consider nonsense, the more the ideology can spread and take hold as it goes unchallenged.
What I will say though is that we have to remember it was once the scientific fact that the Earth was the centre of the universe and if I remember correctly, to deny it was heracy. The point being that our beliefs and understanding of the world can and should change if based on factual new discoveries.
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Wow sometimes you really do show your true colours. So much grievance, you poor little white man. Are the people attacking you in the room with you now? What are they saying?
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You know covid killed many of its victims due to clots right? It is one of the main ways it kills people. I think you've shown your thoughts on covid vaccines with that post.
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Against figures from previous years? When people were using way less disinfectants due to there not being a pandemic
I know we were using products in my household I'd rarely used before.
Also does that say its from ingestion or injection?
As dumb as his comment was, I'd love to see a simple number of how many people injectedl
Bleach. I'd be surprised if it was more than a handful
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You don't think there should be push back on people spreading lies? No one has said he shouldn't be able to tell his lies, just that there should be some push back. Convincing people of ancient civilisations or technology for $ should be pushed back on.
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Would someone in a state of panic use the word "seems"The entire collective of acamedia? And you accuse the left of being in a state of panic
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It was never scientific fact. It was religious dogma passed off as science.
edit: and that is exactly what the problem is here. Then it was religious charlatans telling the population what to believe for £, control and power. It held back humanity for centuries. In the end they couldn't hold it back any longer but they fought it all the way. Truth and science actually matter.
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I absolutely believe there should be push back on people spreading lies, the point I'm making is that how do you know, beyond any shadow of a doubt that he is factually spreading falsehoods? Just because what he is saying doesn't match conventional wisdom now doesn't mean it won't in the future after further scientific discoveries. Not, that I'm saying it will either.