Poll: John Terry to lose England captaincy AGAIN
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Terry shouldnt have got the armband back after the first time he was removed from being captain.
Tbh, I cant really see who is the natural successor. None in the poll. England need someone who will likely be a starter for the next 5-10years or so and only reckon Hart qualifies.
And now England will implode at the Euros, starting to end up like France in that respect.
Now if only Scotland could qualify, i'd be a happy chappie !
Tbh, I cant really see who is the natural successor. None in the poll. England need someone who will likely be a starter for the next 5-10years or so and only reckon Hart qualifies.
And now England will implode at the Euros, starting to end up like France in that respect.
Now if only Scotland could qualify, i'd be a happy chappie !
What about non-racial abuse? If one footballer calls another a swear word, should that be something the police get involved with too? Should footballers be banned from swearing in case your son hears? Serious questions.
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i feel sorry for Johnson, even Ashley Cole has more votes than him in this poll
They've both thirty-one (although Gerrard's a bit older). Why would Scott Parker be okay for inclusion, if you're ruling out Gerrard?
We’re having a regime change and I think it should include anyone who has been in the captain/vice-captain roles as well. I’d pefer to see it on an older head hence Parker. He'd stil be ok for leading us to the 2014 finals. All short term I know but we'll probably have another manger by then as well.
So why not go for Parker now then rather than Gerrard?
Short term measure to keep some level of continuity before going to Euro 2012. The long term view needs to be taken after the finals and not before. How would you do it?
I'd certainly have Gerrard up until the Euros. Imo he's the best captain available to us by some distance and as I said earlier in the thread, there's no point in selecting a long-term captain now when we're going to change manager in the summer.
After the Euros is tricky. While it's possible Gerrard could still be around for the 2014 WC, you couldn't be confident of it and there isn't any stand out candidate to take the role long-term. I have no problem with people calling for Hart to get it, I personally don't like keepers being captain though.
Wilshere would be an interesting option and if Gerrard plays on for at least another year after the euros (like I expect he will), him as vice-captain alongside him in midfield could be useful too.
Scott Parker would be my choice. His work rate is exceptional and how he is prepared to put his body on the line every time is enough to help inspire the others. Hart would be my second choice. I think in a couple of years it will end up being Wilshere.
Terry always blames everyone else when he screws up so I won't be sad about him not being captain anymore, and despite how he is a superhero for Liverpool, Gerrard is often non-existant in international games.
Terry always blames everyone else when he screws up so I won't be sad about him not being captain anymore, and despite how he is a superhero for Liverpool, Gerrard is often non-existant in international games.
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Agree Wilshere is a future captain. For now though, I would actually give it to Rooney or Parker.
Can't be having a keeper as captain. Never agreed with it.
Can't be having a keeper as captain. Never agreed with it.
I've always preferred midfielders as captain where possible. Of course other players can lead but there's an added emphasis on the captain to lead on the pitch and midfielders can both lead the side when your back's against the wall defending and when you're pushing forward chasing the game.
Nope, I am under no impression that he will hear swearing, as I did when I was a kid. The best thing I can do to mitigate it while he is young is to sit in the family area. This is something that has moved on leaps and bounds in the past 20 years though with more family friendly areas available at grouns.
With regards to racist insults I'm afraid you'll just have to accept that in the real world calling someone a ****ing **** is quite far removed from calling them a ****ing black **** which we all saw Terry do on the Sky coverage.
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It's also no different from calling someone a ******* ginger ****.
In reality, none of the three mean diddly squat, we've merely decided that one is more insulting than another, largely because its seen as PC to suggest so.
Its completely fine to insult someone for being ginger, white, fat, thin, geek, ****, anything else, but black is immune.
Its illogical and stupid, do I hate ALL ginger people if I call one ginger person a ****, even if infact he is a ****?
I don't think this is really the place to debate where the line becomes unacceptable, it's a strawman probably more suited to GD. Suffice to say if the allegations are proven true against Terry then I'd say the majority of people in England would want him out.
I disagree. There's no logical reason for the offence taken to differ.