Josep Guardiola: is he actually a good manager?

FeFiDoh · 27 Apr 2012 at 17:42

Quite a young team still isn't it that Barcelona one? A few players are in their 30s like Puyol, Xavi and Abidal is it? Rest are what mid 20s? Still got quite a lot of time left. Plus they keep churning out players like no tomorrow.

The biggest trouble with La Liga isn't just the fact that those 2 teams dominate the £, I swear I heard that 50% of Spain support one or the other! That is insane. I have no idea what the figures are in this Country but surely no where near as dominant are vastly more spread out I would imagine?

Tom84 · 27 Apr 2012 at 17:48

Yep Thiago (21), Busquets (23) & Fabregas (24) are going to be in that midfield for a long time. Wouldn't surprise me if they bring in Martinez over the summer as well, if not to complement the midfield then to sure up their defence

elmuzzy66. · 27 Apr 2012 at 19:19

Anybody else think that any club that sign pep will have a good crack at getting messi?

cheets64 · 27 Apr 2012 at 20:02

elmuzzy66. said:
Anybody else think that any club that sign pep will have a good crack at getting messi?

No, would be surprised if Barca they let Messi go, they would want about £100 million for him

Andybtsn · 27 Apr 2012 at 20:05

Considering Ronaldo is classed as a bargain at 80m, I think they'd want considerably more than 100m

Robbo · 27 Apr 2012 at 20:05

cheets64 said:
No, would be surprised if Barca they let Messi go, they would want about £100 million for him

More than that, Carroll was £35 million!

If there was a chance to get him for under £200m, I think City would have a go.

Andybtsn said:
Considering Ronaldo is classed as a bargain at 80m, I think they'd want considerably more than 100m

Indeed, this too.

FrankJH · 27 Apr 2012 at 20:30

Robbo said:
If there was a chance to get him for under £200m, I think City would have a go.

Moses said:
Not necessarily. The Ronaldo £80m was before the financial fair play rules kicked in. If £80m was the ceiling price for a player, pre-FFP... it could be lower, now.

No - one knows how FFP is actually going to work yet, for instance the "Etihad" sponsorship deal (that is WAY above current market rates), so its impossible to know

dannyjo22 · 27 Apr 2012 at 21:32

Andybtsn said:
Considering Ronaldo is classed as a bargain at 80m, I think they'd want considerably more than 100m

I'd rather have Ronaldo in the EPL, you would have no fears of him hacking it and it isn't used to be the main outlet 99% of the time.

I'm not convinced Messi would get anywhere near the standard Ronaldo got to in England. Messi could be a gamble at 100 million in the same way Kaka has failed to perform elsewhere, you would know what you are getting with Ronaldo.

cheets64 · 27 Apr 2012 at 21:57

Well Ronaldo went for £80m when he was on top of the world and 25, Messi is 25 now so he would have to go this summer or next at the latest, if you are paying £100 million + for a player you want to make as much out his image rights as you can, he will probably burn out at 30.

Messi has been playing 50+ games for the last 4 season, at the highest level.

Tom84 · 27 Apr 2012 at 23:11

elmuzzy66. said:
Anybody else think that any club that sign pep will have a good crack at getting messi?

Nah, Barca would have to go seriously down hill for Messi to consider leaving Guardiola or no Guardiola.

Tummy · 27 Apr 2012 at 23:16

Shame to see Guardiola leave, what he has achieved with this Barcelona side is nothing short of amazing.

I wish him all the best in whatever he does next, I expect it will be a nice long holiday

I have enormous respect and love for him and his style of football and views on the game.

I said before, he's aged about 10 years and lost a lot of weight doing this job, the stress and pressure of the job is clearly huge and draining and it's finally taken it's toll. I think Guardiola wants the very best for the club and team and seeing that he's unable to give them that which they need at the minute he's stepped aside. Enormous respect

The cliché of 'they don't have a plan B' and 'anyone could win things with that team' are boring, dull and bull ****.

cheets64 · 28 Apr 2012 at 00:51

Tummy said:
Shame to see Guardiola leave, what he has achieved with this Barcelona side is nothing short of amazing.

I wish him all the best in whatever he does next, I expect it will be a nice long holiday I have enormous respect and love for him and his style of football and views on the game.

I said before, he's aged about 10 years and lost a lot of weight doing this job, the stress and pressure of the job is clearly huge and draining and it's finally taken it's toll. I think Guardiola wants the very best for the club and team and seeing that he's unable to give them that which they need at the minute he's stepped aside. Enormous respect

The cliché of 'they don't have a plan B' and 'anyone could win things with that team' are boring, dull and bull ****.

Barca Man Utd and Wednesday fan, living the dream son

This was him 4 years ago on left, he just looks ill now. He has won every trophy at least twice, apart from Copa Del Rey but got a final this season.

Legend

Tummy · 28 Apr 2012 at 02:33

cheets64 said:
Barca Man Utd and Wednesday fan, living the dream son

...?

cheets64 said:
This was him 4 years ago on left, he just looks ill now. He has won every trophy at least twice, apart from Copa Del Rey but got a final this season.

Legend

Indeed, has looked to age years. The stress and pressure, internally and externally are huge at Barcelona.

Do like the GiF