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Jump on the conroe waggon or wait?

It seems like an awful lot of people are holding out for conroe (myself included). Hopefully there won't be any shortage of supply at launch, as I want to wait a while before buying to see which version offers best bang for buck, and which nForce 590 mobos work best.

Tbh, I haven't been this excited about an upgrade since getting my first pentium 100 :)

I bet there'll be a lot of sigs looking like this:
Conroe + DDR2 + nForce590 + 79XX

:D:D
 
Sorry to jump in.....But for those of us that have a limited budget of say £550 - £600 should we just get a 3700+ 939 system and be done with it? I seem to get the feeling that Conroe is for those with a healthier budget than mine. Which path should I take please?

Cheers
 
a low-end Conroe (E6300) should be available in the £120-150 range, which is the same price range as what the 3700+ is just now.

BUT, Conroe will require DDR2 ram, which is currently more expensive than the equivalent DDR ram that you'd buy on the 939 system. And we still have to see what prices the Conroe mobo's will retail at - but they shouldn't be THAT much more expensive. There should be budget conroe mobo's, as well as high end mobo's. Just like there are on all the existing platforms at the moment!

I would say that there's no need to rule Conroe out, just because of your budget - if you dont NEED to buy now - then there is no harm in waiting and seeing if it meets your needs. BUT then again, if you DO need something just now - there is nothing wrong with going for the 939 3700+ system....
 
The E6600 looks like the one to go for, with its larger cache. Does anyone know how much difference this cache will make? Will it be like previous intel chips with cache making a huge difference to performance when compared to AMD's lineup?
 
Jay_t said:
The E6600 looks like the one to go for, with its larger cache. Does anyone know how much difference this cache will make? Will it be like previous intel chips with cache making a huge difference to performance when compared to AMD's lineup?
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Good question, and a tough one to answer. I think all of the ES chips that have been tested elsewhere have all had 4MB cache, even when they haven't been E6600+
 
Pr0t0c0L said:
the conroe XE will likely be 2.93ghz @ 1066mhz bus with unlocked multi
£750
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conroe XE will be 1333FSB running at 3.33GHz last i heard (official intel release info)
the next CPU on intels desktop roadmap is the Kentsfield CPU which is 2 conroe cores on one die so basically for CPUs they will also have an obscene amount of cache i am led to believe :D
 
Durzel said:
Some more proof if proof be need be ;)

http://www.*****.net/content/item.php?item=5692&page=1

(are we allowed to link to ***** on here? If not Mods please delete)

EDIT: Evidently not
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dont worry ;)

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:eek: :D i want E6600 NOW!!!!
 
wesley said:
dont worry ;)

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:eek: :D i want E6600 NOW!!!!
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can i safely say that this proves that a reasonably cheap conroe beats a rediculously expensive fx62 on a few decent benchies. If you look at the difference in price between the two in my eyes theres only one clear winner

conroe all the way!
 
Yep, and there is something not quite right with that Conroe setup.. Look at the memory bandwidth, its only just over 5000, yet the P4 is close to 6000, Both processors are using a 1066mhz FSB, with identical memory. And that bus has a bandwidth of 8500.

Maybe its a just the bios on the intel motherboard. Or maybe conroe's will perform even better with DDR2-800 instead of the DDR-677 which was used in that test. But something seems to be holding back the Conroe there.

Also the Quake, and SplinterCell tests are meaningless. High resolution, 4xAA/16xAF... They are probably GPU limited, thats why even the i965 can keep up without any difficulty, dispite being the slowest of the 5 cpus tested.
 
not sure but the chances are if conroe takes off like its set to do then they wont have much choice. If this is the case they may aswel hand the crown to ati now
 
Apparently, Nvidia are not refusing to develop SLI for intel.

I think they were just sneaky, or perhaps misquoted.

They dont appear to wish to work with intel to get the 955/975 chipsets running in SLI, guess they are upset with intel for working with ATi.

They also dont seem to want to spend time trying to upgrade the Nforce4 to support Conroe.

However, the word is that there will be an Nforce 590 board for intel, which will support Conroe, SLI Graphics, and they claim to have SLI working on other parts of the board, if you use nvidia graphics cards in a Nforce 590. (I believe it simply means if it detects nvidia cards, it will overclock the PCI Expressx16 slots for a little bit of extra performance). Not 100% sure on that though.

The new Nforce boards should be released about the same time as Conroe.
 
m$ and nvidia are not best of friends, i think intel do not like the way that nvidia has been riding along with AMD for the last few years and vice versa m$ used ATI GPUs in their Xbox 360 so ATI and intel will be getting on very well at the moment as they already have a vested interrest in each other in the console market this seems to be getting transfered to the personal computer market aswell
 
Nvidia recently said Nforce 5 chipset supports Conroe (a fairly obvious statement considering Conroe is pin-compatible with the Pentium 4...), and of course this chipset also has SLI. Can't see what the confusion is here. Of course Nvidia will support Conroe with SLI... It is literally 1.5 months away from being the defacto gaming platform...
 
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The memory bandwidth figures are just plain wrong. That site must have made some setup errors with the ram as I get 8700MBs with my DDR2-533 Ram so Conroe should get that as a minimum as it also runs on the same.
 
AWPC said:
The memory bandwidth figures are just plain wrong. That site must have made some setup errors with the ram as I get 8700MBs with my DDR2-533 Ram so Conroe should get that as a minimum as it also runs on the same.
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Yup those benchies look pretty bad to me too. Not nearly enough thrashing of the A64 occuring ;) Something is very wrong.
 
Still for the money (If above conversion is in the right ballpark) the E6600 looks to be rather popular and with good reason.
 
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