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It’s just pure greed.
Junior Doctors Strikes
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Imagine the chaos if we went on strike for better pay, and by God we deserve better pay. Hospitals would grind to a halt within 2hrs.
Naah I'm sure the Consultants would step in for 180 quid an hour mate.
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Of course they'd try, but Health & Safety wouldn't let them. You actually have to get signed off to push beds/trolleys/wheelchairs. They won't be able to access the blood fridges, again you have to be signed off and have ID access. Can't see them running multiple trips to the far ends of the hospital with bags of blood and plasma for a major haemorrhage. Half of them would end up in Resus. or the CCU themselves.
It would be fine. The competent new management structure of our trust would come to save the day!Of course they'd try, but Health & Safety wouldn't let them. You actually have to get signed off to push beds/trolleys/wheelchairs. They won't be able to access the blood fridges, again you have to be signed off and have ID access. Can't see them running multiple trips to the far ends of the hospital with bags of blood and plasma for a major haemorrhage. Half of them would end up in Resus. or the CCU themselves.
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If it's an emergency even when strikes are on the doctors etc will still work, they have coverage.
IIRC you're actually likely to get a more senior/older doctor when the strikes are on as the senior staff/consultants end up covering for the strikers.
If tehre is a big emergency the striking doctors/nurses will assist even if they're meant to be on strike.
Basically for emergencies, especially life threatening stuff you're still covered, it's normally only routine appointments and elective surgeries that get cancelled (your knee replacement might get pushed back but if you're in an accident and they need to operate, or you have a heart attack and they need to do a bypass/stents etc you'll get them as if there wasn't a strike).
On the flip side, does this not show the true "market rate" of medical staff, so to speak?
I went private (recently) because the NHS staff almost killed two of my family members needing surgery in the past year, and finished off a beloved uncle two years back.
Damned hard job, pay people what they're worth rather than funding middle management legions while importing "staff" if you can even call it that.
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Its more than just about the money.
The reason pay is at a lower effective level than in 2008 is because the Tories froze/cut the pay scales and the knock on effect of this has been less people coming into the sector and more of the ones that do switching to private work or simply leaving the country.
The real world effect of this to the general public has been increased waiting list times, reduced levels of clinical safety, and bigger queues in A&E departments.
Doctors aren't just asking for more money, they are asking for a better deal for themselves, their colleagues and the public and for a reversal of some of the damage the Tories did. It's just that doesn't play well with the right wing media so they just rage about doctors being greedy.
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The problem though is ascertaining that it’s an emergency during the strikes. The wait times, the queues.
I was told another 6 hours or so and I wouldn’t have survived. My appendix had burst and it had spread. I was very unwell.
It probably does but unfortunately your employment is in a monopoly public service almost entirely funded by the taxpayers. Not government because they have no money.
Older doctors can express their "worth" by going private or stepping in as in this case but as in any trade or profession you need to have acquired the "knowledge".
In terms of CPI junior doctors are 7% down from 2008, an impressive feat. This time you may have lost the public especially if this is a monthly gig.
This is precisely why Wes's approach is so stupid, he probably can't deliver pay restoration but he can present himself as sympathetic and working towards tge same goals. Instead, he's fallen into the lazy pattern of antagonistic engagement.
indeed #moneyface
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Why? The place never runs better than during strikes, consultants everywhere, ED wait times plummet as you are seen by a senior decision maker off once rather than a chain of people.
If you need surgery you get an all consultant team.
i know right. just finished a night shift covering the juniors. brilliant night
me: "hi, i'm the icu consultant"
caller: "hi, i'm so-and-so specialty consultant"
me: "i need a review for a patient"
caller: "i'll be 5 mins, see you on icu"
#winning