Jury Service

iamdjdz said:
I don't fancy doing it but if I was called up I'd go. Doesn't sound like much fun though really.
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I guess it depends what case you get.

A petty robbery of a chocolate bar from the local co-op is hardly going to interest many. Whereas a murder case trial could be quite interesting with all the forensic evidence etc. I personally find it quite interesting how the police catch these criminals using forensic evidence, even with the slightest drop of blood or hair.
 
Rids said:
The problem is the financial compensation from doing Jury service would result in a significant loss of earnings for me, which I'm not willing to bear, so I'd be looking to swerve it too. I'm all for "doing my bit" but not if its going to have an adverse impact on my financial situation.
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Well isn't that very selfish of you. I hope that one day you remember this when you are trial for something and wondering what the jury of your peers are made up off.

I hate people who won't give up two weeks out 45 years of working to stand on a jury. Selfish
 
Greebo said:
Well isn't that very selfish of you. I hope that one day you remember this when you are trial for something and wondering what the jury of your peers are made up off.

I hate people who won't give up two weeks out 45 years of working to stand on a jury. Selfish
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Two weeks of my time, and about £3k.

I don't know about your financial situation, but a £3k hit to me at the moment is not something I could absorb without resorting to debt.

and what if you get stuck with a long case that gos for longer than two weeks? What if its a 3 month hit?

Match my salary, I'll be there as long as you need me, but £64.95 a day is a farce.
 
Rids said:
Two weeks of my time, and about £3k.

I don't know about your financial situation, but a £3k hit to me at the moment is not something I could absorb without resorting to debt.

and what if you get stuck with a long case that gos for longer than two weeks? What if its a 3 month hit?

Match my salary, I'll be there as long as you need me, but £64.95 a day is a farce.
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So you cant survive with two weeks on £64 per day but earn £1500 per week, around £78k per annum? That is just selfish. If you tol me you had a wife and 6 kids and was really struggling and wouldnt be able to put food on the table then I might have had some sympathy.
 
Greebo said:
So you cant survive with two weeks on £64 per day but earn £1500 per week, around £78k per annum? That is just selfish. If you tol me you had a wife and 6 kids and was really struggling and wouldnt be able to put food on the table then I might have had some sympathy.
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I'm not going to defend my situation, I don't feel the need to. You're of course entitled to whatever opinion you choose to hold.

Lets consider your point of view - its ok in your opinion that people selected to do Jury service may be forced into debt in performance of that service?

Edit: Just wanted to clarify incase there was any doubt, I have not at any point in my life been selected for Jury service, my position is purely theoretical if that wasn't clear from my initial post.
 
Rids said:
I'm not going to defend my situation, I don't feel the need to. You're of course entitled to whatever opinion you choose to hold.

Lets consider your point of view - its ok in your opinion that people selected to do Jury service may be forced into debt in performance of that service?
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No but I will drop it there as I cant see how somebody earning £1500 a week and missing two weeks can or should go into debt. Chances are there has been times in my life where I lived hand to mouth when jury service would have put me into debt as well. Im probably sore as I have done jury service yet know lots of people, like my old boss who earns £300k per annum who says the same as you - "why should I be out of pocket to do jury service, if they pay me £6k per week I will do it"
 
Stephanie Peterson said:
No way i would want to be loosing out on money either regardless of how much i earn.
Lmao @ this forum lol.
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I wouldnt want to and I did lose out in money but that doesnt mean to say i wouldnt do it and I did, I suspect most people would say they would rather not lose money doing jury service, common sense really. But to then say you would refuse on that basis and cheat and fiddle your way out of doing it is just selfish IMO. Afterall the more you earn and the bigger the drop between your wages and jury service pay, the more likely it is that you can afford to do it for two weeks.
 
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Greebo said:
No but I will drop it there as I cant see how somebody earning £1500 a week and missing two weeks can or should go into debt. Chances are there has been times in my life where I lived hand to mouth when jury service would have put me into debt as well. Im probably sore as I have done jury service yet know lots of people, like my old boss who earns £300k per annum who says the same as you - "why should I be out of pocket to do jury service, if they pay me £6k per week I will do it"
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Its only been in the last 18 months that my career has really taken off. In July 2014 I hit my rock bottom financially, I had somewhere between £35k-45k unsecured debt from multiple sources, while on a Salary less than £40k, working in South East where rents on a two bed flat start at £1,100, with £300 a month to then spend on commuting into London. Reasons for the debt? A messy divorce and some **** decision making, I'll take the blame for that. But for 4 years I had to beg, borrow, steal, scrimp, save and pick up any side income I could just to get by and make my payments on time - and I did, and it was hell, aside from a few highlights it was 4 years of existing and not living. Only in the last 12 months have I come out the other side of that - I am not willing to get pushed down that path again. Of course my goal is a 3 month slush fund of rainy day money but that will take time to put together. Perhaps once that is in place my opinions towards Jury service will soften a little.

Ah balls, I really did defend my situation. ;)
 
I mean seriously? I'm currently contracting / freelancing for a couple of the big consultancies doing DevOps type work. I can earn anything from £500 to £1400 per day depending on what I am doing. Unless they can match what I am pulling in then no, they can **** off. My time is quite literally my money.

No one should be defending or justifying why they don't want to do it. In the similar vain people calling others selfish can jump off a short plank as well.
 
KubyNeeTees said:
I mean seriously? I'm currently contracting / freelancing for a couple of the big consultancies doing DevOps type work. I can earn anything from £500 to £1400 per day depending on what I am doing. Unless they can match what I am pulling in then no, they can **** off. My time is quite literally my money.

No one should be defending or justifying why they don't want to do it. In the similar vain people calling others selfish can jump off a short plank as well.
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well we will have to differ. If you can earn up to £14,000 in those two weeks and you won;t give up two weeks of your "valuable" time to do your civic duty to be a peer on a case where somebody's freedom depends on it, then yeah I call that selfish. You can keep stating its not selfish all you want but if you are earning hundreds of thousands a year and that is your justification for not giving up two weeks then you are selfish. End of.
 
Well thats your opinion. And you can keep stating I'm selfish, many people have already stated they wouldn't want to either. End of.

And no rebel rebel. I can't actually find my old account details. And duly note the *range*, you will find similar contractors earning this.

If you think that is a lot you should see what they charge clients.
 
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