Just been to register at the local GP...

FishFluff;30482633 said:
I work for NHS Digital. We collect and analyse all the data for the NHS. We're not collecting patient data from GPs and even if we were, a quick email/letter to your GP's NHS Trust would get you on the opt out list. We might however collect information such as how many patients from a particular GP access services online, but we'd just ask for raw numbers as that's all we're interested in.
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You may not receive this data but this may have been a survey for the local council or Public Health England (who would receive the data in an anonymised form) so they could examine their local population with regards to deprivation and access to services etc.
 
Fubsy;30483768 said:
Ha, but then I wouldn't be able to fill the other form in truthfully ;)

Pretty much I have to give them this information and take it on blind faith it's not misused and protected properly. Safe to say I'm happy to do it knowing that none of you guys would have any issues with it.
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i love this you dont trust a gp surgery where staff have to have DBS checks until a bunch of random people on an internet forum tell you its ok:p
 
niko;30485964 said:
i love this you dont trust a gp surgery where staff have to have DBS checks until a bunch of random people on an internet forum tell you its ok:p
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I like the fact you think that being DBS checked means absolutely anything when it comes to data security.
 
Also, staff in the NHS aren't routinely DBS checked unless they are working with "vulnerable" people.

I worked at an NHS rehab centre for half a year, working with and running around collecting patient records, they didn't even follow up on the application references.
 
NMBlack;30482429 said:
It's standard practice when signing-up at a GP. They want to know about your lifestyle and family background so that they have an idea about what sort of health issues you are more likely to present with now and in the future, what sort of support you'll have at home if you get seriously ill (like cancer, for example), etc. The more of this info they have, the better informed they'll be when it comes to them deciding what treatment would be most appropriate for your needs.

[Conflict of interest statement - I teach med students and junior doctors].
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I'd rather they decide at the time what condition I might actually have rather than one I'm more prone to get based on what could be historically incorrect info, and filling out that form will not tell them whether family members are capable of looking after you etc. That is totally flawed logic and would not provide real assistance in diagnosis for anything other than statistics. Phone number and possibly email is sufficient for the purpose of registering - if the GP wants to take some detailed notes during the first consultation than fine, the key word being "detailed".

KillBoY_UK;30482726 said:
How can they give you a correct diagnose or treatment without all the information at hand.
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I don't need the receptionist to diagnose me thanks, I'll speak to the doctor about that.
 
tom_e;30486004 said:
I like the fact you think that being DBS checked means absolutely anything when it comes to data security.
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it points towards good character and its better than trusting random people on an internet forum

Kuros;30486142 said:
Also, staff in the NHS aren't routinely DBS checked unless they are working with "vulnerable" people.

I worked at an NHS rehab centre for half a year, working with and running around collecting patient records, they didn't even follow up on the application references.
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staff even on the desk in gp's surgery's are checked
 
They are meant to be short on time as it is, if they know what you are prone to, they can send you to more relevant departments to check the likely culprit rather than put in a little talk time meeting to avoid a bit of paperwork.

It amazes me how much people expect from a GP after hearing how swamped practices are. The form for family looking out for you can help categorise what sort of help you may need if you cant do stuff like pick up a prescription by yourself. Its fair to ask so that they can give help to those who need it rather than whoever wants it.
 
Dave M;30482424 said:
Googling "GMS1 health questionnaire" it seems standard.

If it bothers you lie on every question.
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This.

However I see your point, the form is there to make you think "they care" Im sure they dont, its just so if you put over 14 units a week they can send you leaflets to get you to cut down etc...
 
Sheff;30485479 said:
You may not receive this data but this may have been a survey for the local council or Public Health England (who would receive the data in an anonymised form) so they could examine their local population with regards to deprivation and access to services etc.
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Correct and I can confirm that because I imported a big batch of stuff for North Staffs this morning. ;)

It is completely anonymous but the extended demographics is very very very useful for our informaticians.
 
Just don't give them the damned info if you don't wish to, nobody is forcing you to use the practice. Go privately if it bugs you so much, the main question asked then will be do you have enough money to cover this consultation? ;) You asked earlier why your ethnicity might be asked on this form. Maybe because some diseases and health issues are more common in certain ethnic groups? After asking so many damned silly questions you can be confident your records will have a subtly coded "PITA" stamp on them somewhere ;)
 
But so what if some ethnicity types are are more susceptible to certain conditions than others, the DOCTOR will be able to tell whether that is applicable to you when you see him. How many times have you been pre-diagnosed by your GP before you enter the room and would you want them to be that narrow-minded? It's narrow minded thinking that sometimes means serious illnesses go mis-diagnosed. Often the simplest answer is the correct one, but I wouldn't like my medical practitioner to always start from that standpoint if I have something more serious than a broken bone. I think the reasons people are conjuring up for this information in this thread are bogus, the only plausible reason is statistics.
 
People need to stop with all this worrying about data harvesting and the like. Do you think your details are such a big secret? If there was a sinister organisation out there looking for your phone number or date of birth, they wouldn't be asking for it surreptitiously in a medical questionnaire.

A ten minute trawl of your Facebook would probably furnish them with all the info they need.
 
:rolleyes: The more places that hold your data the more chance there is of it being lost/used. It's not just evil geniuses who might want/abuse your data.
 
Fubsy;30482468 said:
How is my race necessary? People I live with? My lifestyle can be discussed directly with my GP (when I get one).

They'll have it back, but they don't need that information. If the NHS as whole needs it, then produce an official form - not one that's been knocked up by a local practice that might store it on an insecure machine.
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Because different ethnicity have different risk factors/health conditions... If you are a white man you aren't at risk of Sickle cell anaemia..

Just give them the information, its your freaking GP..
 
DAnDan;30482482 said:
Because health conditions, needs, and treatments vary based on race.
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they'd have his race in his medical records...

this is so the surgery/trust can analyise it's patient base which they couldnt do from confidential information.
 
tom_e;30482475 said:
I could understand your refusal if you'd nipped down to a new barbers and they'd asked you to fill this in but it's a doctors surgery they have access to your whole medical records what difference does some lifestyle information make?
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simple answer is they can;t share that confidential medical records information.


this non confidential form they can.
 
MoRT489;30486619 said:
But so what if some ethnicity types are are more susceptible to certain conditions than others, the DOCTOR will be able to tell whether that is applicable to you when you see him. How many times have you been pre-diagnosed by your GP before you enter the room and would you want them to be that narrow-minded? It's narrow minded thinking that sometimes means serious illnesses go mis-diagnosed. Often the simplest answer is the correct one, but I wouldn't like my medical practitioner to always start from that standpoint if I have something more serious than a broken bone. I think the reasons people are conjuring up for this information in this thread are bogus, the only plausible reason is statistics.
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this


do peoplereally think the OPs race isnt in his medical records and the doctor will only know his race based on this form that he will likley never see?

i mean do you think the op walks in sits down and the doctor goes "one sec mate just need to dig out the form to check what race you are"
 
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