Just been to register at the local GP...

Maccapacca;30486912 said:
Booked my car in for a service last week, the nosy gits wanted to know who I was and the make of the car, how very dare they
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Not really the same thing is it, the garage needs that information for parts and planning purposes, the surgery needs it for stats.
 
Dave M;30482424 said:
Googling "GMS1 health questionnaire" it seems standard.

If it bothers you lie on every question.
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You didn't read the OP properly, he's filled out the 'GMS1' form, it is the additional form the surgery want him to fill out that he is questioning.

I'd also suggest that it is not a good idea to lie on a medical form.
 
actually it is a 'medical registration form' but this is all semantics... it is still not a good idea to lie on it regardless of what name you want to give it for plenty of reasons.
 
Fubsy;30482509 said:
You see I've done all this with operations and thought nothing of it - it's all there in my records (not the **** obviously).
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Fubsy;30482736 said:
Everything is in my records. As I already stated above various times.
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Fubsy, I work with Medical Records every working day and besides the physical notes I also work with around 20 software programs dedicated to patients records.
While you may have given these details to a PREAMS appointment at the hospital, these records are not interchangeable with a GP surgery and vice versa, things you have told your GP are probably not in your hospital records.
Lets say for example your GP has been treating you for a really bad throat infection and one evening you are taken really ill and end up at A&E with bad breathing difficulties, they will not know about your pre existing condition because systems aren't linked and they could end up doing you damage because they don't know.
I think this is a failing of the NHS because quite often we could do with knowing about GP visits. Sometimes we do see a GP history printout in Hospital Records and I often wonder how they get there.

Short version
Hospital & GP records are often not interchangeable.
 
We need ethnicity so we can plug it into QRISK and calculate your cardiovascular risk. if you don't want to give it we'll happily arrange for you to be lobotomised instead :D
 
There are times and places to question WHAT information someone or something should have on you and why.

A GP practice is not one of them.

Ethnicity is directly relevant to your health. Sickle cell anameia and diabetes, just two from the top of my head that I can think of that can have direct correlations with your ethnic origin.

Your lifestyle? This is far too obvious to even justify an explanation.

As long as you are not pumping in your credit card details, why should you be concerned about a practice that wants to look after your health?

If you dont want to give the information either run the gauntlet with your own health or pay up and go private (just remember your credit card/bank details when you go with the latter!).
 
Fubsy;30482439 said:
Should I not want to provide them with this information, then is that grounds to not accept my registration and deny me a GP?
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I haven't read the whole thread, but did anyone answer the op's actual question, the essence of which is above ^?

Everyone seems to have had a comprehension failure and tried to answer the question 'do you think I should fill in the form', which is a different question :p.

My assumption is that they can't refuse you treatment because you didn't fill in the form, but I'd be interested to know...not because I don't think the op shouldn't have to (I think it's a bit of an odd stance, without knowing the op's reasons for not wanting to), but because of pure curiosity.

The NHS if full of unnecessary bureaucracy, but I don't think this is an example of it.
 
Dunno if it's been mentioned yet but the details registered are linked to the nhs system so arguments sake you ever have an accident at the opposite end of the country they can pull up your basic details inc next of kin and important gp details so they can get med records if needed urgently
 
Em3bbs;30485462 said:
Yes, I can't see a better use of a GP's consulting time than verifying email addresses, phone numbers and ethnicity each time a person comes in for an appointment.
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I am obviously talking about asking about medical information that change such as drinking and smoking habits when a patient presents with a condition, not contact information. :rolleyes:
 
Participant;30489149 said:
I haven't read the whole thread, but did anyone answer the op's actual question, the essence of which is above ^?

Everyone seems to have had a comprehension failure and tried to answer the question 'do you think I should fill in the form', which is a different question :p.

My assumption is that they can't refuse you treatment because you didn't fill in the form, but I'd be interested to know...not because I don't think the op shouldn't have to (I think it's a bit of an odd stance, without knowing the op's reasons for not wanting to), but because of pure curiosity.

The NHS if full of unnecessary bureaucracy, but I don't think this is an example of it.
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http://www.nhs.uk/nhsengland/aboutnhsservices/doctors/pages/nhsgps.aspx

They can refuse to allow you to register as long as their refusal is "reasonable" and not based on the usual protected characteristics.

As usual there's nothing that actually gives any examples of a "reasonable" refusal though apart from a couple of pretty stock answers.
 
VincentHanna said:
My GP surgery has about 8 different doctors and 2 nurses.

On the rare occasion that I need to see a GP, I rarely get the same GP.

They have 1000's of patients, I wouldn't expect them to remember me or my lifestyle, so just fill in the bloody form and make life easier for them.
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Yes, make life easier for them and you, saves you answering the same thing over n over with different gp's



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Energize;30490930 said:
I am obviously talking about asking about medical information that change such as drinking and smoking habits when a patient presents with a condition, not contact information. :rolleyes:
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Oh, silly me. I was thought I was replying in a thread where a guy didn't want to give his phone numbers, email and ethnicity to his GP as well as how much he drinks/smokes. :rolleyes:
 
Actually ethnicity is a very important for blood and organs. E.g. You can't transplant organs between ethnic groups even if the blood type matches, it has to be an exact match including skin type (organs also have skin). That's why there is an organ shortage for ethnic minorities.
 
Em3bbs;30491213 said:
Oh, silly me. I was thought I was replying in a thread where a guy didn't want to give his phone numbers, email and ethnicity to his GP as well as how much he drinks/smokes. :rolleyes:
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Ffs, can't believe this thread hasn't died. It was NEVER about the particular information, whether I'm a raging alcoholic or not.... It was should the surgery allow registration without the demographic questionnaire being completed, and how and who has access to the information if I were to provide it to them.

From what I've learned there are multiple areas my data is stored - one lot for the GP medical records, one lot for the hospital records, and one lot for the GP surgery to use for passing around to NHS analysts - and each has to be requested from me individually, they can't just pull it from one file to fill in the blanks on another. Forgive me for creating this thread and giving a **** where my data goes and who has access to it.
 
Fubsy;30491313 said:
Ffs, can't believe this thread hasn't died. It was NEVER about the particular information, whether I'm a raging alcoholic or not.... It was should the surgery allow registration without the demographic questionnaire being completed, and how and who has access to the information if I were to provide it to them.
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Alright, calm down. Sounds like you need a drink or cigarette.
 
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