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Just got a £30 ticket!
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I think you misread me, I would be perfectly willing to pay a "fee" of £30 on the occasion you get caught, for being able to ride on the pavement for a hugely reduced chance of being hit by an idiot in a BMW.
Ah, makes much more sense.
And your lucky this thread isn't in motors. Blasphemy like that would result in a right grilling!
Like I said just a really OTT example. I accept I'm in the wrong. What I don't accept is the lack of common sense as far as, on this occasion and others I've been in, the police are concerned.
But do you at least acknowledge that, in this case, the fine has had no positive outcome when clearly (to myself, you guys and the police officer involved) a simple telling off would have sufficed?
It's not a matter of your oh so civilised "where ever possible" it's a matter of either ride on the road or walk (even with bike if necessary) on the pavement end of.
And yes, I advocate 'where ever possible' asking the offender nicely not to break the law but when that isn't possible, push 'em off!! ...... if more people stood up to these ****s they might get the message.
Being less confrontational: As far as I see it, the complaint is really that there aren't enough cycle lanes but that is up to the cyclists to get changed, not just ride where they like.
Where are all these dual purpose things and who designates them? ...... the only ones that I have ever seen are either inside parks or where there is a wide verge next to a dual carriageway, not the footpaths next to the road in towns.
I agree, but between the government, police and council they don't have an ounce of common sense between them.
That totally depends on the situation, I refuse to believe he did not know the law. As we have heard there are some cyclists who would preffer to pay £30 once in a while to flout the law. In that case a £30 fine more often would certainly make them think.
Should have a 3 strike system for most trivial offences.
They're all over Cambridge, basically a wider pavement split half and half with one for cyclists and one for pedestrians. God its irritating when pedestrians walk four abreast, or on the cycle path rather then the pedestrian path.
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*goes looking for sympathy*.... nope none here...
I think that's fair enough, but it's probably wise to remember that many cyclists carry several tools with them, alongside heavy d-locks... these hurt when you get hit with them, all self-defence of course
Cyclists have done what they can, We've (majority anyway) has voted in a government that want to make our country greener, provide better public transport and cycle lanes etc. And they haven't.
In this case, it's not really possible for a cycle lane. So I believe the police officer should have just said "look there's no cycle lane, I'm afraid your going to have to carry on your journey on the road". He admitted the road was dangerous at this time in the afternoon. But didn't account for it when deciding to slap a £30 fine on me.
1st point seems ever so true. Not sure if you've lost track of the thread but I am the OP
The £30 has made me think lots of things. Mostly nasty horrible things about the PC who gave it too me. But I was polite, we had a conversation and I don't come across like a total tool. If the PC was even slightly capable of judging character he would have realised just telling me I was in the wrong and letting me go would have sufficed.
And I really didn't know it was against the law. Like I said apart from recently where I started riding to work I haven't ridden a bike in years. I've never had an training or education in cycling. And when walking around Reading I always see people cycling on pavements/the high street. This is not an excuse, and I'm not saying "OMG why was I fined not them". Like other said I just got caught. What I am saying though is it was never made clear to be it's illegal. I see people doing it, and didn't know otherwise so I just assumed it was okay. Looks like I was wrong!
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Pedal cyclist casualties fell from 16,648 in 2004 to 16,561, a drop of 1 per cent. The number of cyclists killed or seriously injured rose by 2 per cent overall to 2,360, and the number of fatalities increased 10 per cent from 134 to 148.
I think I'll stick too the pavement as my life is far more important than upsetting some unreasonable ****er!
I would like to point out however that my experience is that the majority of pedestrians I come across are jolly nice chaps who on many occasions step into drives to allow me too pass more easily (Obviously I thank them)
A small amount moan and say get on the road, they get the finger and told too **** off !! Females or kids get a death stare instead
I think I'll stick too the pavement as my life is far more important than upsetting some unreasonable ****er!
I would like to point out however that my experience is that the majority of pedestrians I come across are jolly nice chaps who on many occasions step into drives to allow me too pass more easily (Obviously I thank them)
A small amount moan and say get on the road, they get the finger and told too **** off !! Females or kids get a death stare instead
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All I have to say is...
Good!
I really hate cyclists on the pavement, more so because it's against the law. Just ride on the road like you're supposed to.
Good!
I really hate cyclists on the pavement, more so because it's against the law. Just ride on the road like you're supposed to.
A small amount moan and say get on the road, they get the finger and told too **** off !! Females or kids get a death stare instead
Nobend. I hope someone pushes you off into the road when a lorry's coming.
When it should really make you think "It was my fault I got fined, in future I won't cycle on the pavement." You are having a go at a police officer for doing his job. I have just as little sympathy for anyone caught speeding who moans at the fine. If I speed, I know I break the law and accept that if I get caught I will pay a fine.
Pedal cyclist casualties fell from 16,648 in 2004 to 16,561, a drop of 1 per cent. The number of cyclists killed or seriously injured rose by 2 per cent overall to 2,360, and the number of fatalities increased 10 per cent from 134 to 148.
I think I'll stick too the pavement as my life is far more important than upsetting some unreasonable ****er!
I would like to point out however that my experience is that the majority of pedestrians I come across are jolly nice chaps who on many occasions step into drives to allow me too pass more easily (Obviously I thank them)
A small amount moan and say get on the road, they get the finger and told too **** off !! Females or kids get a death stare instead
Exactly, I'm sure no matter how vindictive the posters here are, if it was the choice between £30 or serious injury/death, the £30 would win every time.
On a side note:
I'm a driver, I'm also a responsible cyclist, I ride on the road wherever possible, I don't go through red lights or zebra crossings, and I give way etc where I'm required. I still get abuse from car drivers because I'm "in the way" or too slow
and I admit, there are still certain roads where I would rather ride on the pavement, due to poor road design/bad traffic etc.In my years of riding (about 10 riding to school/work almost every day) I've only ever hit 1 pedestrian who decided to step out in front of me without looking... guess what, I was on the road.
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Pedal cyclist casualties fell from 16,648 in 2004 to 16,561, a drop of 1 per cent. The number of cyclists killed or seriously injured rose by 2 per cent overall to 2,360, and the number of fatalities increased 10 per cent from 134 to 148.
I think I'll stick too the pavement as my life is far more important than upsetting some unreasonable ****er!
I would like to point out however that my experience is that the majority of pedestrians I come across are jolly nice chaps who on many occasions step into drives to allow me too pass more easily (Obviously I thank them)
A small amount moan and say get on the road, they get the finger and told too **** off !! Females or kids get a death stare instead
And I'll walk in the middle of the pavement and make sure it's as difficult as possible for you to pass, because you're breaking the law. You ask me to move, I'll tell you need to be on the road, as thats the law.
If you're life is so at risk then walk, you can't cycle safely where you're meant to then don't cycle.
That's fair enough, after all that's your right, and if I'm riding on the pavement I always get out of the way for pedestrians.
However if you start getting agressive with me, you'll get it right back tenfold (I always take my logitech with me)
If there was no appropriate cycle lane i would have argued the case and certainly appealed against the fine.
In future next time you see police, cycle on the road at very slow speed holding up traffic. If you get knocked off your bike by a car on a road which has no cycle lane...sue the council.
But yeah its cases like this where you wonder "yeah this'll really convince people to abandon their cars for cycles" Not a chance in hell.... There is no provision for safety for cycles on the road so if i had a cycle then ill be damned if im getting killed over some petty bureacratic decision-making. So i'd ride on the pavement and just cycle away from the policeman pretending i didnt hear him (walkman)
In future next time you see police, cycle on the road at very slow speed holding up traffic. If you get knocked off your bike by a car on a road which has no cycle lane...sue the council.
But yeah its cases like this where you wonder "yeah this'll really convince people to abandon their cars for cycles" Not a chance in hell.... There is no provision for safety for cycles on the road so if i had a cycle then ill be damned if im getting killed over some petty bureacratic decision-making. So i'd ride on the pavement and just cycle away from the policeman pretending i didnt hear him (walkman)
I kick cyclists on the pavement, are you the oi that fell off her bike last week......hope it hurt
Thats ok, because I make pedestrians almost **** themselves when they walk on cycletracks. Why do pedestrians think it is perfectly fine to walk on cycletracks when they wouldn't walk on a road?
In all seriousness I normally have a massive moan at people as I go past, because the cycle tracks where I live are proper ones, ie with a raised path on the side and two lanes for cyclists to go on.
When Police start fining pedestrians for doing that then I think it's right to fine cyclists for cycling on pavements (not that it's necessarily right to do so but it's the principle).
Fixed.
And as I mentioned in the previous thread, helmets aren't actually that much use on a road, if you fall off a bump to the head is the least of your worries. On a rath/cycle track fine, but a road they don't provide much protection whatsoever.
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