Just hit the motherload

just out of interest and apologies if its already in the thread and I didnt spot it but....where are you going to live while this is happening the new house isnt just going to appear!!

Theres gonna be time between your flat beinng demolished and the new house being ready.

Edit - ok ive just read the OP again and i understand now, but where are the phase 1 lot gonna live???
 
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just out of interest and apologies if its already in the thread and I didnt spot it but....where are you going to live while this is happening the new house isnt just going to appear!!

Theres gonna be time between your flat beinng demolished and the new house being ready.

It's happening in 3 phases. I'm phase 2, During phase 1, Which is a year, Houses will be demolished and new homes built on them.

Then in phase 2, My lot will be demolished and I'll move into a Phase 1 new Build :)

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Just noticed the edit, Not all phase 1 people will want to move into Housing association due to increased rent. They will be moving into current Council houses else where, Or some will also move into temporary accommodation while their Housing association place is ready
 
just incase you miss my edit ill post again, where do the phase 1 people go? or is there enough houses being built in phase 1 to allow phase 1 and 2 people to live in. No wait that doesnt make sense......
 
You must have been out of work for a VERY long time to be entitled to that kind of benefit. You're talking out of your backside mate.

since i was 16, well 15 i think i've had severe chronic pain in my knee's, every step i take hurts, pretty badly now, I have pain all day long. I have stomach problems, ulcers, from taking years of ibuprofen and codeine, which I only took for 3-4 months because the stomach issues were bad. I'd be better off as a cripple with no use of my legs and no pain. Until you've lived with chronic pain you simply can't understand. I dropped out of a-levels in the end as during winter the pain was that much worse I simply couldn't get there. I've worked at times but getting to work and getting out the house causes enough extra pain that after a while it gets bad enough that I have to stop. At 18 i was eligible for a council house, rent, money for food and disability benefits, think about it 7 years of basic housing and food/disability allowance, its 15k a year, probably more. I could have been claiming for 7 years since I hit 18, thats more than 100k. But i live with parents I don't get on with well at all, as I don't want to take that money. I have a choice, a bad one but I personally I would feel wrong taking the money while there is ANY other choice. I also have the choice of two knee replacement surgery's, you can only have 3, and they only last 7 years, so when i have the first op , 21 years later i'll be basically unable to walk. I know several other people who have had them who are much older than me from the hospital with much the same story, basically its an incredibly bad idea to have the surgery until as late in life as possible.

WHile there are dozens, hundreds, thousands of other scrotes who take benefits who could easily get a job, I won't. I won't go against what I believe is right, just because other people do. Boohoo, my parents aren't millionaires, they understand and support my decision not to claim and it costs them money. AT some point I'll have the knee ops, get work and support them when they are older, thats life. It won't fix my shoulder pain, nor wrist, nor ankle pain I also get, but that doesn't change much when I walk.

At the end of the day, no matter how many other people claim benefits that are out there, if I claimed benefits other people would pay more tax to cover them and that is not acceptable to me and is something I can do something about. I can't do anything about the other people but I can do something about me. I do my part, if/when other people do their part maybe this country wouldn't be going downhill so fast.

THe problem in this country is almost everyone thinks their tiny little bit doesn't matter, so they take it. But when everyones doing that it add's up. No no ones getting refunded because I don't take benefits, however if i did take my share next year they'd collect an extra 15k tax off the rest of you.
 
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So you take the choice of burdening your parents while you feel sorry for yourself, simply because you dont want to take the benefits you are entitled to?

sorry if that seems harsh, but christ. you coulda been housed independantly years ago, instead you choose to live at home with parents, and then you even say you dont get on with them!

the most ridiculous plan ever.

You are refusing benefits, but costing your parents money.

how the hell does that work
 
since i was 16, well 15 i think i've had severe chronic pain in my knee's, every step i take hurts, pretty badly now, I have pain all day long. I have stomach problems, ulcers, from taking years of ibuprofen and codeine, which I only took for 3-4 months because the stomach issues were bad. I'd be better off as a cripple with no use of my legs and no pain. Until you've lived with chronic pain you simply can't understand. I dropped out of a-levels in the end as during winter the pain was that much worse I simply couldn't get there. I've worked at times but getting to work and getting out the house causes enough extra pain that after a while it gets bad enough that I have to stop. At 18 i was eligible for a council house, rent, money for food and disability benefits, think about it 7 years of basic housing and food/disability allowance, its 15k a year, probably more. I could have been claiming for 7 years since I hit 18, thats more than 100k. But i live with parents I don't get on with well at all, as I don't want to take that money. I have a choice, a bad one but I personally I would feel wrong taking the money while there is ANY other choice. I also have the choice of two knee replacement surgery's, you can only have 3, and they only last 7 years, so when i have the first op , 21 years later i'll be basically unable to walk. I know several other people who have had them who are much older than me from the hospital with much the same story, basically its an incredibly bad idea to have the surgery until as late in life as possible.

WHile there are dozens, hundreds, thousands of other scrotes who take benefits who could easily get a job, I won't. I won't go against what I believe is right, just because other people do. Boohoo, my parents aren't millionaires, they understand and support my decision not to claim and it costs them money. AT some point I'll have the knee ops, get work and support them when they are older, thats life. It won't fix my shoulder pain, nor wrist, nor ankle pain I also get, but that doesn't change much when I walk.

At the end of the day, no matter how many other people claim benefits that are out there, if I claimed benefits other people would pay more tax to cover them and that is not acceptable to me and is something I can do something about. I can't do anything about the other people but I can do something about me. I do my part, if/when other people do their part maybe this country wouldn't be going downhill so fast.

Well i totally sympathise with your situation and i'm sorry that you are in so much pain. But not taking the money wont make the world a better place, the benefit system is in place to help people like you, not these scrotes who clearly do not deserve it. I think in your case your decision not to take the money for pride is a bad one and you are effecting the quality of life badly for pride. Swallow your pride and take what you are entitled to, you have every right to it.
 
Maybe you dont get on with your parents because they are sick of paying for the extra care you require, because you chose to refuse any benefits that are put in place to help people in your situation.

im just totally miffed by the whole thing. It makes ZERO sense.
 
Just noticed the edit, Not all phase 1 people will want to move into Housing association due to increased rent. They will be moving into current Council houses else where, Or some will also move into temporary accommodation while their Housing association place is ready

Ahh see my point was going to be if anybody has to live elsewhere while the build takes place then the £5000 might be compo for that and if you give it to one they probably have to give it to all, but as that isnt the case ill shut up!:D

grats mate its great when you get your own house! I for one would want something for the "stress" of having to move.:)
 
Maybe you dont get on with your parents because they are sick of paying for the extra care you require, because you chose to refuse any benefits that are put in place to help people in your situation.

im just totally miffed by the whole thing. It makes ZERO sense.

Yes, except I've never got on with them, however the cost of food, and free housing doesn't actually effect them much and its a choice. I can be a burden to the state but a far HIGHER burden.

Here theres a house paid for and a room, to sponge off the government and move out I'd be taking up a council house, which shockingly cost a LOT more than a free room. Say i get 2-3k a years worth of food and a few hundred in power costs from my parents, to move out and live off the state I'd be getting in the region of 15-20k a year at this point on benefits if you can't see the difference, then I can't say anything anymore.

I also expect to pay my parents back at some point and look after them when they are older, so getting money off them isn't a big deal. Also, any parent should be aware when they have kids, not every single human is perfect. Does a parent with downs syndrome give up on them when they are 18, no. If/when I have kids I would realise I am responsible to them however they turn out, the possibility they need help till far past the age of 18 is there and I know this before I have kids.

Add to that, in small times when my knee pain is reduced slightly, during the summer I have and will try to work, I've worked several jobs in the hot weather when the pain is often less severe, if i was living on my own in a council house I would lose benefits and likely lose my place when I again become unable to work. I've had several jobs where to keep pain down I've had fairly frequent steroid injections into the knee to keep swelling down but after several months the pain still gets to bad and I end up having to leave.

I choose to be as helpful as I can when able, and not a burden while possible, to be called an idiot for that is just why this country is going down the tubes. There are people worse off than me who have NO choice, one of the other people I know with the exact same problem doesn't have parents to live with anymore as they died several years ago, he takes benefits now as he has no choice, I will do the same if I'm forced into the situation. But right now I'm not there.

I don't get if people just really can't understand the economic situation of this country or what. We grow in debt every year, we lose jobs in industry every year and we increase the public sector number of jobs every single year. INdustry jobs create money in our economy by producing something we can sell outside the country. Public sector jobs paid out of tax money simply move money around, we're moving towards a point where the debt this country takes on every single year is completely unsustainable and no one cares at all.

AS for taking the money and sticking it in savings, unless I move out I'm not entitled to a huge amount of benefits, if i move out, that money will go almost all on rent, power, food living costs and paying for help from people to get around, get to doctors, medication and so on so I wouldn't be able to save it, it would all be going down the tubes when I have the offer of free rent and board in a not ideal place but its still free. TO suggest i take it and simply save it, you realise people have worked for that tax, its no different to me simply asking this forum to all donate me £5 and stick it in the savings, the money still comes out of your pockets and I choose not to take it for my own greed.
 
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How about you put your awesome principles aside, and consider this...

You are depending upon your parents to keep you clothed, fed, and sheltered... when you could get the same from the government.

Your parents are working their asses off to look after you, and you will pay them back "at some point and look after them when they are older"

EH?

i dont get that at all.. why not take what is offered to you, learn to live with it.. grow more confident. And let them have an easier life now, instead of taking cash from your own parents, instead of the government.

you dont get on with them... but choose to take their money and live in their house..

people with downs syndrome are on the other end of the spectrum. if you claim you can work when you feel well.. why the hell cant you live in a house that the council provide.

I feel like im being nasty because your problems sound nasty and i see that, but your logic is totally out of the window
 
I will.

You and AcidHell2.

Happy now?

not remotely, can you actually quantify your reasons for these feelings?

otherwise I'll assume you like most other people here havent actually read the entire post.

and do at least read my posts, try not to assume like the rest of the headless lemmings here that I actually berate the OP,

with that said I'll await your insuing justification for your feelings
 
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Care to explain yourself?

"People like me"?

What is that supposed to mean? Or are you just being a brat out of habit?

i think he means your post was crap, and added nothing to the topic.

cant argue with that
 
Actually, if you read through the 12 pages of posts in this thread, it makes perfect sense. In all honesty, it cuts to the bone.
 
Ive read them all, and posted quite actively in this thread,

and it doesnt cut anything unfortunately mate. i see where ya coming from, however there isnt many "troll" posts.. just mainly things that werent thought out
 
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