Even if they didn't block it you're still a theif... At the end of the day it was never your's to begin with.
Just Received an iPhone I Didn't Order
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Not really a thief is he? He didn't actively go and steal it from someone.
The company messed up through their own platform by allowing this to happen, it's their cost to burden and if they aren't bothered to get the device back that's on them.
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He's a theif if he doesn't make an attempt to return it.
Once contacted... If the retailer is too useless to collect then it's fair play.
Unsolicited goods are legally considered a gift and you're under no obligation to return them so not a thief. They already said that they had contacted the retailer anyway.
As stated above and as can clearly be seen, I'm making efforts. There's only so much of my own time I wish to spend on the phone once they're already aware of what's gone on.
Even more interesting, I'm now signed up with Clearscore. They asked a lot of confirming questions and wanted photos of ID's and more. When I was finally approved, they let me know someone else had tried to make an account in my name on the 9th of November. They've blocked that account and they say "We've also sent a request to Equifax on your behalf to remove all searches made with that account." It seems to me the 9th was probably about when the phone would have been ordered too. I wonder what they could hope to achieve through this?
Yes. I'm not denying this.
Sounds like the security checks were lacking on the providers side. I’m surprised no one has knocked on the door either pretending to be the courier here to return the phone or that you received a parcel for me as I typed the address wrong.
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Erm, well, me having said I had received a phone then made attempts to return it, you said I was a thief, someone disagreed and you then said if I'd made attempts to return it then I wouldn't be... so, you can see why it's a little confusing?
Soldato
You can always run with the legal definition:
A person is guilty of theft if he dishonestly appropriates property belonging to another with the intention of permanently depriving the other of it.
If it were me I would certainly have made at least one attempt to inform Sky - that’s my job done as far as I’m concerned. In this instance, it would be mainly just to make sure I stay on the right side of the law because if there is a legal wrangling down the line in terms of identity theft etc I’d want to make sure I was squeaky clean.
It’s a little sobering reading this thread because, much like yourself Andy, I would consider myself competently tech savvy etc. You always assume these scams happen to unsuspecting or vulnerable people but it just goes to show no one can be too careful.
A person is guilty of theft if he dishonestly appropriates property belonging to another with the intention of permanently depriving the other of it.
If it were me I would certainly have made at least one attempt to inform Sky - that’s my job done as far as I’m concerned. In this instance, it would be mainly just to make sure I stay on the right side of the law because if there is a legal wrangling down the line in terms of identity theft etc I’d want to make sure I was squeaky clean.
It’s a little sobering reading this thread because, much like yourself Andy, I would consider myself competently tech savvy etc. You always assume these scams happen to unsuspecting or vulnerable people but it just goes to show no one can be too careful.
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So guess the scam here is them knocking on your door pretending to be the courier, getting the phone and then selling it on quickly before it eventually gets blocked down the line?
Imagine they have to steal your identity to begin with to open an account, guess getting loans and credit cards has more security checks compared to something like this.
Imagine they have to steal your identity to begin with to open an account, guess getting loans and credit cards has more security checks compared to something like this.
If it was me my concern is that he phone was probably bought with a stolen CC and eventually the police could come knocking on my door
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Didn’t realise this was a thing.
I'd almost forgotten this too. There was a brief moment I thought one was making up for the other 
As an update for anyone interested, despite agreeing they would contact me after 5pm, I got a call about 3 or 4 days later at about 3:30pm, which I couldn't take and later google'd to see it was Sky Mobile. I waited a week to see if they would try again, but nothing. I called customer care back and explained. The guy was nice enough but basically said 'don't worry, they will try again' and that he couldn't do anything further. So, 3 weeks on and not much has happened...
Caporegime
you still got the phone?
Yup. They don't seem that bothered... but, it'll sit there until they contact me.
Caporegime
I wonder if there is a point you can assume no one is interested and as a result just keep it as a glorified iPod
Well, I've called them twice now, that's enough for me to feel I've done my bit. I honestly don't know how long I would wait... at least a year. I wouldn't feel too bad if someone from Sky called me in 13 months asking where it was. Maybe legally I would still be liable though and they send me a 4 figure bill...
Mind you, the definition of theft from a shop is taking something and making no effort to pay. I could probably argue I've made an effort to return it. Them not acting on that is on them?
Mind you, the definition of theft from a shop is taking something and making no effort to pay. I could probably argue I've made an effort to return it. Them not acting on that is on them?
Soldato
Thanks for the update Andy.
Did you ever get a call or a visit from the supposed scammer(s)?
Did you ever get a call or a visit from the supposed scammer(s)?
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