"Just stop oil"

Just do not touch sugar or all the other hidden names for sugar , process foods and you should have nice teeth.

Brush your teeth before breakfast and before going to bed, wait an hour after eating to brush teeth, rinse then floss once at night, then risn brush your teeth.

Can you teach us how to walk too pls
 
You can almost see his words bouncing off her face, she has absolutely zero intention to listen to any reason or logic.

This is a side effect of raising kids where nobody's a loser, everyone's perfect and everyone's opinion is right.

I still reckon we should start a fundraiser so they can go block up some highways in Johannesburg. They'll very quickly learn that there's a time and a place for these things.
 
Thats the thing, the questions and her replies will be lost because of the way she was, people wont hear the questions and answers, instead all they will take from the interview is "what a nutter". As I say, yet more terrible tactics by Just Stop Oil, I really dont know who is running their campaign strategy but they really havent got a scooby doo how to run an effective campaign

At the end of the day they do make some good points, and they're certainly raising awareness for their cause which is undeniably one we should all be getting behind tbh. The problem is that rather than have rational, reasonable debates and answer questions like adults, they sulk on motorways, have strops on live TV and turn on the false tears every time they face a challenging situation. Add to this that the answer to every question they are asked can be boiled down to "oil bad" and they're literally destroying any support they could've garnered.

That being said, it may well be intentional, as coming across as a deluded idiot who probably eats soup with chopsticks certainly gets them on the news. I really hope that's the case anyway, for if it isn't and this is the state of future generations, I'd also be trying to move to another planet.
 
You claimed they can't produce heat below 3C which is nonsense. They work fine and can create heat when it is below 3C, not to mention they are deployed regularly in far colder places than the UK without issue.

They are also not 'poor at generating heat', even in a far from ideal deployment they should achieve an average coefficient of performance of 3 and well above that in a more ideal deployment in the real world and not a lab. A coefficient of performance of 3 puts their running costs below a modern gas boiler with it's fabled 94% lab tested but never seen in real life efficiency.

To be clear, I didn't say they were the be all and end all and will not be suitable for some properties, but for many, they are a viable option if you have the £££ to spend upfront and yes it is a lot of £££ upfront. The whole premise of my post is that there is existing (expensive and probably not going to get any cheaper) technology out there that can be deployed that uses considerably less energy than their fossil fuelled equivalent so not all energy currently used as fossil fuels needs to be replicated as electricity.

One of my clients just spent millions on heat pumps for their flagship office, a 377k sq ft office block in London. These heat pumps stop producing heat at 3°c ambient and will need to be supported by a gas fired system.

It's all well and good you reading bits of sales blurb and parroting it on here, but you've now got two people with experience in the HVAC industry telling you you're wrong.

They're expensive to buy, expensive to maintain, are full of nasty gases, extremely complicated with tons of failure points and are unreliable, and whilst I'm sure they are great in a perfect testing environment, but out in the real world they are a LOT more energy intensive than you're being told, and their efficiency falls off a cliff as soon as they face real cold.

Of course none of this matters because "green" so just like electric cars, the entire herd of elephants in the room get ignored because green.

Heat pumps can help for sure, but don't tell people that they're the solution, because they're not. They're a part of a solution, which still requires other elements to work.
 
Ah right, so one specific model of heat pump doesn't go below 3C so all heat pumps don't have that capability. Got ya ;)



Full of nasty gasses, complicated and unreliable, unlike a gas boiler right? I never said they were cheap but the numbers I used above are real world in a less than ideal domestic deployment. We also don't get 'real cold' in this country.



Please tell me where I said they were THE solution?


Dunno if you're deliberately missing the point or genuinely too stupid to get it but you crack on, I've got nothing to prove here ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
The situation in the UK is so simple, but everyone in government with an eye to promotion ignores it. There are too many of us, and more are wanting to, and being enabled., to come here. Smell the coffee...Don't overthink and overcomplicate this situation :)

Then, once you grasp that fact, look at the global situation, which is similar. It's a toss up between global conflict and mother nature rebalancing this iniquitous situation. Either way, `tis but a matter of time...
You should really do an omnibus of all your anti-immigration drivel to save you blabbering on in every thread you can somehow tenuously link it to :cry:
 
So please explain to this equine excretion poster how local and global human population levels and greenhouse gas production are not equatable.

They are, we all know this. You seem to think that by not letting anyone in to the country that suddenly all our greenhouse problems will go away.

To be clear, 70% of my workforce is currently foreign, and they're all good, honest, hard working people, including myself.

But don't let that get in the way of your incessant frothing in every thread over a few lazy apples trying to take the mick.

I currently have two vacancies too, might see what our borders have to offer ;)
 
Too many people is too many people, whatever their ethnicity or origin. Our services allgedly can't cope, nor can our housing stock, and green belt land that "cleans" our atmosphere is being eroded all the time.

Correct, and yet this is a global problem, we're not exclusive. Yet we are still one of the best economies in the world with some of the best educational institutions in existence, all of which could help produce solutions to our problems, using bright minds from all over the world.

But we all know you'd rather shut the borders down, burn junk in your back yard and pretend that humanity hasn't evolved since the 70s.

Shock horror old boy, the world is changing and the only way to stave off the negative effects is to find solutions, so you close your curtains, moan about the immigrants on the internet and let the rest of us make sure your kids have a future eh ;)
 
Ah so you're a 'but China' person, at least we know that now. The UK is still subsidising fossil fuels while doing woefully little to protect nature here. Lets not pretend we are some bastion of green wonderfulness.

The fact stands though, if they really wanted to make a difference, they'd start at the worst offenders, not a bloody snooker game. We, and they, know that they'll end up in prison camps or dead if they tried which is why they won't do it.

They didn't even have the balls to support their cause in winter, when we produce the most CO2 emmissions, absolutely hopeless losers, the lot of them.

I suspect we'll see a few cases of aggravated assault this year too, mark my words. When the inevitable Gofundme pops up for "sharon needs cosmetic dentistry because someone shoved her teeth down her throat" I'll chuck a penny in just so I can laugh at her.

Useless drains to society.
 
He quoted me with a nonsense argument not the other way around and yeah I'll point out BS claims about global warming, it might go over your head but that's on you.

Your crap's been going over peoples' heads for 15 years on here and yet you still sit here going round and round in circles achieving absolutely naff all.

Do you enjoy this?
 
Do you agree with hurfdurf's sentiments here re: future generations?

"It pleases me to know that I’ll be gone, but the children of those responsible are going to suffer horribly. "

It will be poor people in places like India who are the worst affected initially.

Do you understand that India is a big country so of course it pollutes a lot in total, but the average Indian doesn't pollute as much as people in the west?

Answer the question:

Do you enjoy this?
 
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