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Just watched Linus's performance results of the 5000 series

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Wow!

5600x better than the 10900k!?

I was going to go for the 5900x but looking at those results I think I will go for the 5800x.

Just need to wait for the 3060ti now!
 
What's even more amazing it often beats the OC'd 10900k while using less than one third of the power.

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I'd check out the Gamers Nexus review of the 5800X first - its the runt of the litter from their testing...

I think he is being critical. I dont necessarly disagree with what hes saying. Hes right in that, the 5800x is a lot more money, for a little more performance in gaming. And no where near as good at the 5900x at work applications.

The 5900x is marginally better at gaming then the 5800x, but also only marginally more expensive.

So, what hes saying is for gaming, just get the 5600x as your wasting your money for a margin of perfomance getting a 5800x, but...............

5800x is still the better chip for gaming then the 5600x. So just depends on how you value the performance to the cost.
 
I think he is being critical. I dont necessarly disagree with what hes saying. Hes right in that, the 5800x is a lot more money, for a little more performance in gaming. And no where near as good at the 5900x at work applications.

The 5900x is marginally better at gaming then the 5800x, but also only marginally more expensive.

So, what hes saying is for gaming, just get the 5600x as your wasting your money for a margin of perfomance getting a 5800x, but...............

5800x is still the better chip for gaming then the 5600x. So just depends on how you value the performance to the cost.

Thank you, this saves me watching the :D video. I don't want the worse of the three but I don't want to pay another £140 on top of that again for only a slight increase again.
 
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I think he is being critical. I dont necessarly disagree with what hes saying. Hes right in that, the 5800x is a lot more money, for a little more performance in gaming. And no where near as good at the 5900x at work applications.

The 5900x is marginally better at gaming then the 5800x, but also only marginally more expensive.

So, what hes saying is for gaming, just get the 5600x as your wasting your money for a margin of perfomance getting a 5800x, but...............

5800x is still the better chip for gaming then the 5600x. So just depends on how you value the performance to the cost.
The 5800x also offers a bit more future proofing and will be better for multi tasking. I'd say get the 5800x if you intend to keep it for a long time and do more then just gaming, but the 5600x if your only using it for gaming and planning on jumping on am5.
 
The 5800x also offers a bit more future proofing and will be better for multi tasking. I'd say get the 5800x if you intend to keep it for a long time and do more then just gaming, but the 5600x if your only using it for gaming and planning on jumping on am5.

Yes definately future proofing. I also noticed that the performance between the 5900x and the 5800x is closer than the 5800x to the 5600x.
 
Yes definately future proofing. I also noticed that the performance between the 5900x and the 5800x is closer than the 5800x to the 5600x.

Indeed, and in a few benchmarks the 5800x is actually better in some games, although generally the 5900x is overall, marginally better.

Edit: watching it again (for gaming) despite how much he slags it off, his own benchmarks actually see it beating the 5900x in quite a few of the games........
 
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Since AMD announced the prices the 5800X has always looked the least value proposition and it was likely that the 5600X would be best value for games. However I have still put in an order for the 5800X as I have had my current chip for 5 and a half year and if this one is looking to last that long again I feel a couple of extra cores to go with the monster IPC increase should help with future proofing. That and I *really* didnt want to cough up 500+ on a 5900X :)

At about 50 quid cheaper I think it would look a lot more attractive tbh.
 
Indeed, and in a few benchmarks the 5800x is actually better in some games, although generally the 5900x is overall, marginally better.

Edit: watching it again (for gaming) despite how much he slags it off, his own benchmarks actually see it beating the 5900x in quite a few of the games........

Nearly went for the 5600X after I saw the gaming benchmarks, but ultimately still decided to stick with the 5800X in the end.
Not the best value option, but I much prefer 8 cores, 16 threads if I'm to keep this CPU for the next few years.
 
I think he is being critical. I dont necessarly disagree with what hes saying. Hes right in that, the 5800x is a lot more money, for a little more performance in gaming. And no where near as good at the 5900x at work applications.

Or what you can buy was only 1 I could find wanted a 5950x, but ocuk said end of December, 5800x turns up tomorrow but was 520 quid which is 5900x money

The 5900x is marginally better at gaming then the 5800x, but also only marginally more expensive.

So, what hes saying is for gaming, just get the 5600x as your wasting your money for a margin of perfomance getting a 5800x, but...............

5800x is still the better chip for gaming then the 5600x. So just depends on how you value the performance to the cost.

Depends what you can buy as I ordered 5950x for ocuk said December the 5800x i ordered turns up tomorrow
 
Yeah could do to drop 50 quid on it, but its not a bad chip - its just that everything else is amazeballs.

this, it looks like a great cpu; but it just doesn't stand up to the 5600x and 5900x at the price point it's at; particularly when it doesn't come with a bundled cooler. all the cpu's are selling out, so from AMDs perspective the pricing is fine. the one thing that might be in its favour is the silicon quality, an 8 core chiplet *might* be better quality than a 6 core chiplet depending on yield and overclock better (than say the 5900x)
 
Depends what you can buy as I ordered 5950x for ocuk said December the 5800x i ordered turns up tomorrow
For me, it was just quite opposite, wanted 5900x but ended up in the queue probably above 1000, which was actually a jackpot for me, as it made me looking alternative sources and scored me 5950x for nearly 5900x price coming on Monday plus reservation for 6800xt :D
Normally I would not be paying for 5950x but could not refuse such an offer.

Was a bit surprised for it sitting just on 120W (actually lower than 5900x).
 
the one thing that might be in its favour is the silicon quality, an 8 core chiplet *might* be better quality than a 6 core chiplet depending on yield and overclock better (than say the 5900x)

This is a theory I also share, but who knows, I will say the frequency charts that gamersnexus showed were very stable for the 8 core compared to the 12/16, however so were the 6 core, so that that throws that off a bit and points the stability thing more towards the double CCX (6+6/8+8).

We'll see though. It might end up being the one for overclocking, but again, from what I have seen so far overclocking doesnt end up getting you all that much of a gain.

I still think purely for gaming, it's possibly the CPU of choice, but value for money, absolutely dog **** compared to the rest of the line up, no doubt about that.
 
Linus has addressed his review - he used faster memory than most reviewers.

tech tubers will have more test videos coming out. Ryzen 5000 appears to gain a significantly more performance with fast ram
 
5950x and 5900x should have the best selection of chiplets with 5800x and 5600x having lesser quality ones, after all, they offer twice the amount of chiplets with same TDP and higher clocks as well, at least in general.
As for 6 and 6+6 core variants, some would come from defects but given high Yields on TSMC 7nm process, the majority would be just 8 core dies with fused of cores o meet demand on lower SKUs.
 
5950x and 5900x should have the best selection of chiplets with 5800x and 5600x having lesser quality ones, after all, they offer twice the amount of chiplets with same TDP and higher clocks as well, at least in general.
As for 6 and 6+6 core variants, some would come from defects but given high Yields on TSMC 7nm process, the majority would be just 8 core dies with fused of cores o meet demand on lower SKUs.

If its like Zen 2 the dual chiplet designs have one stronger chiplet and one weaker one. The weaker chiplet can be pretty underwhelming in terms of clocks achievable. Its a neat way to parcel off average silicon at a premium price point.

With the 3800X being a single chiplet you're likely to have decent silicon quality and the befits of a single ccd design.

I'm almost tempted to go from my 3900X to the 5800X because the 5800X looks very strong in gaming.
 
Nearly went for the 5600X after I saw the gaming benchmarks, but ultimately still decided to stick with the 5800X in the end.
Not the best value option, but I much prefer 8 cores, 16 threads if I'm to keep this CPU for the next few years.

Upgrading from a six years old I74790. The 5900x isn't worth the extra money for the extra cores/threads for gaming but the 5800x is better for longevity over the 5600x.
 
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