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Just what is NVIDIA up to?

GhostDog1981 said:
I think you are going to have to accept the price that AMD and Nvidia want is always going to be overpriced to your internal barometer. Probably give it a rest with saying everything is overpriced?
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I won't accept it and will continue to vote with my wallet, just because these companies come in with ridiculous prices at release and then cut them down to where they should have originally been 8 months ago doesn't automatically make it a deal.
ICDP said:
So you want AMDs 6800 XT replacement to be cheaper in real terms than the card it replaced? I know you still think this is really the 6800 replacement but the performance uplift and the specs would show it really was meant to be the 6800 XT replacement. You are entitled to that opinion of course but all things considered the 7900 XT at current prices with inflation and the weaker pound is at a very good price. It's one thing to argue it is too expensive on release (it was) but it's another thing to ask that they sell it much cheaper than the GPU it replaced.
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I do because the 6800XT was a faster card in relative terms against the opposition of the time when it launched.
 
Aegis said:
Well, value is subjective and we all place value in different things.

For example, I'm kinda on the fence with HUB's opinion on the 4070 Ti - at $750 for the 7900XT and $800 for the Nvidia card I'm inclined to say that DLSS (2) and better RT performance is worth the fifty bucks difference - however, that 12GB of VRAM *suuuucks*. If it had 16GB then it'd be much more competitive even if it's a little slower in raster than the 7900XT.

Personally, I wouldn't buy either of them at those prices.
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Personally I think 16gb vram on a £1200 4080 is a complete joke. Games are already allegedly going to make mincemeat of that buffer imminently. A 4K texture pack or two would require at least 20gb.
 
Joxeon said:
I won't accept it and will continue to vote with my wallet, just because these companies come in with ridiculous prices at release and then cut them down to where they should have originally been 8 months ago doesn't automatically make it a deal.

I do because the 6800XT was a faster card in relative terms against the opposition of the time when it launched.
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You might have a very long wait to hit your price to performance bracket sadly. (Unless you buy used or buy past gen stuff at next gen release)
 
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Aegis said:
Well, value is subjective and we all place value in different things.

For example, I'm kinda on the fence with HUB's opinion on the 4070 Ti - at $750 for the 7900XT and $800 for the Nvidia card I'm inclined to say that DLSS (2) and better RT performance is worth the fifty bucks difference - however, that 12GB of VRAM *suuuucks*. If it had 16GB then it'd be much more competitive even if it's a little slower in raster than the 7900XT.

Personally, I wouldn't buy either of them at those prices.
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Perfectly fine from a subjective point of view. What I am pointing out is that objectively the 7900 XT is at a price point right in line with the 6800 XT once inflation and the weaker pound are factored in. We objectively don't get to simply wave these away as if they don't exist.

Joxeon said:
I won't accept it and will continue to vote with my wallet, just because these companies come in with ridiculous prices at release and then cut them down to where they should have originally been 8 months ago doesn't automatically make it a deal.

I do because the 6800XT was a faster card in relative terms against the opposition of the time when it launched.
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This is yet another attempt to change history. The 6800 XT was £50 cheaper than the 3080 and a fair bit slower in RT but about the same in raster. So by and large it was priced and performed at a comparative level to its competitor.
 
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GhostDog1981 said:
Personally I think 16gb vram on a £1200 4080 is a complete joke. Games are already allegedly going to make mincemeat of that buffer imminently. A 4K texture pack or two would require at least 20gb.
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I don't think you'll find many people that disagree with you - the 4080's been almost universally panned since it was released - especially here.
 
GhostDog1981 said:
Personally I think 16gb vram on a £1200 4080 is a complete joke. Games are already allegedly going to make mincemeat of that buffer imminently. A 4K texture pack or two would require at least 20gb.
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Were you not posting a few months ago when there were plenty of threads about this type of shortcoming? :)
 
Perfect_Chaos said:
Would be stupid to buy that over a 4090.. Yeah it's 300+ more minimum, but why wouldn't you when it's quite a lot better.
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The 4080 is a great GPU on it's own merits, marignal VRAM aside. It is the price that makes it a terrible purchase in comparison to the 4090. That does not make the £1400 4090 good value either.
 
ICDP said:
Well it is wrong because the correct answer is not to buy either at those prices. I only have a 4080 because I got it for £900 but still think it should be ~£850 max.
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Again, value is subjective - £1,500+ is an obscene amount to spend on a GPU but if you want zero compromises then that's the asking price.
 
Aegis said:
Average US sales tax is 6.6% so $746.20 = £587.18

At the current rate, if you convert $700 to GBP and add VAT @ 20% you get £661.28

US customers get the Starfield code too.
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The quoted price doesn't include tax.

Right now on a US Retailer $749.99.

At current rates £590 + 20% = £708.

OCUK right now £724.99
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Ok, 25'th November 2020, RX 6800XT MBA: £679.99

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Adjusted for inflation today: £872

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Aegis said:
And? HUB's point was that at $750 this card is still overpriced.
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If you're going to quote me don't do it out of context.

Adjusted for inflation a November 2020 6800XT would cost £872, the 7900XT is £725.

Stuffs more expensive...
 
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