Kaby Lake review at Bit-tech!

SilverFish21 · 4 Jan 2017 at 10:07

DragonQ said:
Interesting viewpoint considering the review pexcept gaming where Kaby Lake is slightly worse than Skylake, even with a 500 MHz clock speed advantage.

Doh... so there's no need to wait for the 7700K to be released after all.

The framerate tests in the ArsTechnica review seem to suggest that Kaby Lake is at best a lateral step and at worst a step backwards.

So much for 'progress'.

LiE · 4 Jan 2017 at 10:09

SilverFish21 said:
Benchmarks aside, Intel is saying that the new Kaby Lake CPUs should be available to buy late January/early February.

Does anyone know if we can expect the first Kaby Lake PCs to appear on the OcUK site around that time - or does it usually take longer than that?

The thing is, money's burning in my pocket and I'm wondering whether to wait or not. I'd probably just about survive a 4 week wait, but if it's going to take a couple of months until they hit the shelves I'd struggle... delayed gratification isn't my strong suit.

I'd be waiting to see what AMD come out with also.

wellibob · 4 Jan 2017 at 10:10

I forsee a 7700k being £349 here. You see.

Columbo · 4 Jan 2017 at 10:30

Arstechnica's headline tells you everything you need to know

With identical performance to Skylake, Intel brings desktop performance to a standstill.

DragonQ · 4 Jan 2017 at 10:33

wellibob said:
I forsee a 7700k being £349 here. You see.

Yep, current exchange rate and VAT rate suggests at least £340.

SilverFish21 · 4 Jan 2017 at 10:36

LiE said:
I'd be waiting to see what AMD come out with also.

Good point. It'll be very interesting to see how AMD's Ryzen SR7 Black edition stacks up in gaming benchmark tests against Skylake/Kaby Lake.

jpaul · 4 Jan 2017 at 10:42

If you want HTPC capability then Kaby Lake is the only option for access to Netflix 4K and ultra-HD blu-ray drive.

I have not found any articles that elaborate on extent to which future DRM media maybe exclusively via Kaby Lake. ?
(TPM module, I thought was needed, is available on previous architectures)

Nutella33 · 4 Jan 2017 at 10:57

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MonsterMoshi · 4 Jan 2017 at 11:01

Usually when there is little performance gain you at least get some extra features like Haswell brought M.2, Skylake brought Thunderbolt 3 but this brings nothing of interest...

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 4 Jan 2017 at 11:03

Whats with all these new threads everytime a new Kaby Lake review is out??

There have been 10 new threads made in the last month or so,everytime a Kaby Lake CPU is reviewed,or when somebody overclocks it.

chilipeppersc · 4 Jan 2017 at 11:06

Many threads!!! These reviews are disappointing, there is still hope for AMD!

Legend · 4 Jan 2017 at 11:33

I don't really know what people were expecting if they are claiming disappointment now... there are no surprises here, we knew Kaby wasn't going to be anything special. In the CPU arena, the onus was always on AMD to deliver something worth getting excited about... but we've known for months that Kaby was never going to do that.

Seems clear to me now that Kaby is going to hang its hat on the 5Ghz possibility with certain chips, and milk that for every last drop in the marketing stakes. No doubt OCUK will be doing so with the de-lidded chips they'll be selling.

IvanDobskey · 4 Jan 2017 at 11:38

This is exactly why i just went ahead and bought a 6700k before Christmas.

Richdog · 4 Jan 2017 at 11:45

lol @ the OP for a ridiculous overreaction, and lol at all the people who expected anything more than a minor incremental performance upgrade.

Uriel · 4 Jan 2017 at 12:35

Well lets consider what happens to other platforms (smartphones, consoles) when a new CPU is just a smaller, very slightly faster version of the last one.

Price cuts.

There is one thing that could make Kaby exiting and that is being significantly cheaper than Skylake. With any luck a bit of competition from AMD could make that necessary.

pieman109 · 4 Jan 2017 at 13:07

Uriel said:
Well lets consider what happens to other platforms (smartphones, consoles) when a new CPU is just a smaller, very slightly faster version of the last one.

Price cuts.

There is one thing that could make Kaby exiting and that is being significantly cheaper than Skylake. With any luck a bit of competition from AMD could make that necessary.

Heres hoping, I'm looking at a total upgrade, mobo, cpu, ram, psu and case so I'm very interested in what Ryzen/Zen brings to the table. I just hope that AMD's marketing dept don't screw it up again by overhyping.

Terminal_Boy · 4 Jan 2017 at 13:09

233 said:
still don't see anything to tempt me away from my clocked 2600k

Likewise with my 2500K running happily at 4.5GHz

Vertigo · 4 Jan 2017 at 13:29

drunkenmaster said:
Wow, what a review, apparently the chip does enough to consign Skylake to the history books... with the 200Mhz extra overclock providing minimal performance difference, identical gaming performance, identical IGP performance(which takes up half the die which is what you're paying for) and you know, is just Skylake respun with slightly higher clock speeds and nothing else.

Was that a paid review? Not been on bit-tech in a while, feel like I've not missed anything by not visiting.

Indeed, seen a couple of reviews which show virtually no gain over the previous generation yet the summary says it's the best thing ever :rolleyes:

233 said:
still don't see anything to tempt me away from my clocked 2600k

Same. Intel are just taking the **** these days, lazily offering virtually nothing new year on year.

reflux · 4 Jan 2017 at 13:35

Another 2600K owner here, been out of the hardware game for a few years but nice to come back and see my chip was a worthwhile investment. Disappointing that things haven't moved on though.

benjii · 4 Jan 2017 at 13:53

Everything about Kabylake has provided AMD with the perfect opportunity to rejoin the high end CPU market with a running start. Come on AMD, stop this nonsense!