Keep cake away from the office

Seems like a good thing, tbh. The odd bit of cake is a good thing but many of the offices I've worked in have had a never ending stream of unhealthy food - cakes, sweets, chocolates, sugary drinks, etc. - and it just contributes to an environment where it's easier to end up eating more garbage than you want than not.
 
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Only time I have brought in chocolates is on my landmark birthdays. Never worked my birthday as book a few days off. Either bring them in on last shift before birthday or day before.
 
Over 100 posts and no one have mentioned council workers yet? I volunteered for a council for 3 weeks before I got my permanent job and cakes / doughnuts were rife in that setting, almost on a daily basis. The full-timers there had something like 35 days annual leave + bank holidays and out of the office by 16:30.
 
Over 100 posts and no one have mentioned council workers yet? I volunteered for a council for 3 weeks before I got my permanent job and cakes / doughnuts were rife in that setting, almost on a daily basis. The full-timers there had something like 35 days annual leave + bank holidays and out of the office by 16:30.
They were likely paid a pittance compared to a reasonably similar private sector role. I'll work until 5:30/6pm, buy my own cakes, have 25 days (non-bank) holiday, and be paid much better, thanks.
 
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They were likely paid a pittance compared to a reasonably similar private sector role. I'll work until 5:30/6pm, buy my own cakes, have 25 days (non-bank) holiday, and be paid much better, thanks.

Suggest that to the unions - let's give them their pay rise to an equivalent private sector worker but the conditions are that your holiday, sick and pension contributions (both employee and employer) are matched to an equivalent private sector role.

Yeah, I can see that going down well....
 
I'd prefer if people didn't bring cake into the office tbh. If someone is bringing something from a supermarket or similar, it's easy enough to ignore. But if someone has made the effort to make something themselves, there's a lot of pressure to have some of it. I've had colleagues body shame me about being too thin before when I've refused cakes or treats and frankly I'd quite like to not even be in that situation.
I’d already liked this but just wanted to say what a great point this is. As an ex porker I thought losing weight would mean an end to comments about my body but if anything it’s worse because someone that is a healthy weight is seemingly viewed as fair game. I’ve lost count of how many comments I’ve had about my lunch, or not eating stuff in the office. I would never dream of pointing out how terrible a colleague’s lunch was or needling them for eating whatever treats are in the office.

This is all underpinned by the assumption that being a healthy weight is either easy or lucky.
 
We really do live in a health and safety state now.

If people can't control themselves they get fat and die early. That's nature.
 
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I'd prefer if people didn't bring cake into the office tbh. If someone is bringing something from a supermarket or similar, it's easy enough to ignore. But if someone has made the effort to make something themselves, there's a lot of pressure to have some of it. I've had colleagues body shame me about being too thin before when I've refused cakes or treats and frankly I'd quite like to not even be in that situation.
I enjoy winding the people up that pass comments when I don't partake in filling my face with cake / doughnuts in the office. Ignore the comments just stroll on over, waft the smell of fresh cake etc and take a good sniff, give a big 'ahhhh' then walk off smiling.

Couldn't give two hoots about comments made by others, they're usually just trying to get you to eat to make themselves feel better about how much they've scoffed.
 
This is all underpinned by the assumption that being a healthy weight is either easy or lucky.

We are in such a strange place in society right now when it comes to weight. We actively encourage being overweight and glorify the idea that you shouldn't be unhappy about your weight when you are obese. We promote overweight "models". We tell people that its everything but their own fault that they are overweight.

We don't do this for nearly any other aspect of life and yet we do it for something that is really bad for the individual and for society. We think smoking is disgusting and doing it around children is beyond the pale but being morbidly obese and overfeeding your children is just...meh.

As you say, its now got to the stage where people who are a normal weight are considered the weird "lucky" ones rather than simply the norm. I weigh myself reasonably regularly and if I am going outside the range I want, I try to cut down on my calories. Is it easy? Not really. I love food. I'm hungry.

Yes, losing weight is hard but damn do we give people every reason not to do it.
 
We really do live in a health and safety state now.

If people can't control themselves they get fat and die early. That's nature.

Thats the issue, they don't. They just get a host of health conditions that modern medicine can treat at vast expense and they cost the NHS silly amounts of money over their lifetime. This is precisely the reason why we can't keep ignoring it.

Apparently the yearly cost of obesity to the NHS is £6bn so about £200 of everyones taxes goes to pay for these people. Thats ignoring the people who can't work due to obesity related health issue. Thats a large welfare cost. Thats ignoring the lost productivity from people who can't work effectively or keep having to take time off work.

They estimate that obesity costs around £27bn a year. Circa £800/person in tax. That was in 2017 and we have got worse since then and COVID has happened which again, disproportionately affected fat people and therefore placed an even larger burden on society.


But no, its definitely just a them problem and not an everyone problem.
 
We had free cake when I worked at a massive industrial bakery, I wasn't vegan then so would have a Tesco finest or Waitrose freebie at tea break then just feel rubbish and sleepy, tarts in the afternoon are hard work
 
People aren't cooking enough for themselves for various perhaps valid reasons/pitiful excuses so they're on a 7 day binge of store bought/takeaways filled with sugar/salt/goodness knows what which is far too convenient. I just see this as another facet of our Americanisation as they too are addicted to avoiding cooking at all costs and until we end that link we're not going to stop it.
 
This is precisely the reason why we can't keep ignoring it.
Yet plenty of people like me enjoy the odd cake or treat a few times a week - whether it be because Brenda has brought something in to cheer everyone up, or because I fancy a pastry with my mid-morning coffee. The government shouldn't be concentrating on nannying people, they should be putting proper healthy cooking in the school curriculum, so that 18 year olds leaving for University know not-only how to cook simple meals, but know that by doing so they would actually save money over unhealthy takeaways etc.
 
Yet plenty of people like me enjoy the odd cake or treat a few times a week - whether it be because Brenda has brought something in to cheer everyone up, or because I fancy a pastry with my mid-morning coffee. The government shouldn't be concentrating on nannying people, they should be putting proper healthy cooking in the school curriculum, so that 18 year olds leaving for University know not-only how to cook simple meals, but know that by doing so they would actually save money over unhealthy takeaways etc.

Cooking isn't hard and these days its laughably easy to learn how to cook. I have a sneaky suspicion that people also know that a takeaway isn't cheaper than cooking at home but when they say that, someone says "oh poor you, you need help, its someone elses fault you are in this situation, bad government".

The same people who can figure out everything they want to do on their phone, the same people who can somehow manage to order stuff online, buy a car, tax and insure a car, get a new phone and contract. Those people can't cook because no one taught them? Do me a lemon. I was never taught to cook by my parents. I'm not a complete idiot though so I taught myself and by taught myself, I got cook books, watched videos, engaged 2% of my brain to think "how would I cook pasta and a sauce when I have dried pasta with instructions on the pack and a jar of sauce with instructions on the jar".

Its simply easier to eat unhealthily and order loads of takeaways. Its as simple as that. In the same way its easier to sit on the sofa every day instead of doing some exercise. People are lazy and the carrot doesn't work. People need the stick. They need to be treated like children and have their nice things taken away from them when they misbehave.

Sorry for the rant but people claiming they can't eat properly because of poverty or ignorance when they buy takeaway is one of my all time biggest bugbears.
 
(Snip) Sorry for the rant but people claiming they can't eat properly because of poverty or ignorance when they buy takeaway is one of my all time biggest bugbears.
Well, I totally agree. Thing is, people could get to the point where it's 8pm and they're hungry... For me I could knock up numerous pasta dishes in the 10mins it takes to cook the pasta itself. I guess it takes practice but it's one thing that stops me bothering with so many takeaways.. cooking is actually quicker sometimes. That's why I really rate TV chefs like Jamie Oliver. As uncool as he is nowadays, it's his attitude and speed of cooking that can really help.

But yes, it's sheer laziness for most people. You're 100% right. And another problem is that you are what you eat. If you eat lots of **** you're going to feel more like **** and be even more lazy and sloth like. I know if I have a few days of "bad" food I really feel it in my energy levels and concentration. It's horrible. And it's a vicious circle.
 
Sorry for the rant but people claiming they can't eat properly because of poverty or ignorance when they buy takeaway is one of my all time biggest bugbears.
I agree with what you're saying completely.

But, takeaways are nice. They taste nicer than food I cook myself unless its expensive food like a nice steak. Example, an indian takeaway or dominoes pizza is nicer than a home cooked curry or home cooked oven pizza. Not that there is anything bad about the home cooked food, its just that the takeaway food is nicer.

When I was single I often found myself with no food in the house so takeaway it is. In a way I suppose it was laziness, but I also felt time poor so going shopping was lower on the list, knowing deep down I suppose that I could always pop to the chippie. Ps, chippie cooked fish and chips is nicer than oven cooked fish and chips.

Compare that to the 80's when my mom went shopping religiously on a Saturday morning. My gf now, she eats a lot healthier than me and cooks all her own stuff, but she is Polish.

So yes, laziness is part of it, but other significant cultural factors are in play here.
 
Cooking isn't hard and these days its laughably easy to learn how to cook. I have a sneaky suspicion that people also know that a takeaway isn't cheaper than cooking at home but when they say that, someone says "oh poor you, you need help, its someone elses fault you are in this situation, bad government".

The same people who can figure out everything they want to do on their phone, the same people who can somehow manage to order stuff online, buy a car, tax and insure a car, get a new phone and contract. Those people can't cook because no one taught them? Do me a lemon. I was never taught to cook by my parents. I'm not a complete idiot though so I taught myself and by taught myself, I got cook books, watched videos, engaged 2% of my brain to think "how would I cook pasta and a sauce when I have dried pasta with instructions on the pack and a jar of sauce with instructions on the jar".

Its simply easier to eat unhealthily and order loads of takeaways. Its as simple as that. In the same way its easier to sit on the sofa every day instead of doing some exercise. People are lazy and the carrot doesn't work. People need the stick. They need to be treated like children and have their nice things taken away from them when they misbehave.

Sorry for the rant but people claiming they can't eat properly because of poverty or ignorance when they buy takeaway is one of my all time biggest bugbears.
Largely true but it's also true that people are mostly a product of their upbringing. Almost everyone I know who is overweight had a terrible diet growing up and the same with healthy people staying healthy with few exceptions.

My own Mum was an exception and grew up in a typical Scottish household with fried everything but decided to follow a healthier lifestyle which I also took on.

You can reverse it for sure but it's easy to fall back on what you know.
 
We really do live in a health and safety state now.

If people can't control themselves they get fat and die early. That's nature.

Well actually, consuming high calorie foods would have been an excellent survival strategy for most humans who ever lived. It's only modern humans that have access to so much of it that we literally can eat ourselves to death.
 
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