Keyboard/Mouse Adapter Good or Bad.

Mr Men said:
oh dear, seems like Sonny has lost it again :eek:
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how many degrees of movement are there using up, down, left and right arrows? 8 - when you press 2 at the same time to go diagonally.

with a thumbstick there is more than 8. also do keyboards offer analogue movement? i mean does lightly pressing up make you step forward and pressing it fully in make you run or walk faster?

but that's where the mouse comes in handy for movement usually to even out the KB's lacking range, still 2 thumbsticks offer more than a mouse and KB setup in terms of movement, the mouse is far superior at directional changes in terms of view though, which is far superior to a thumbstick.

Mr Men said:
How about someone using a wheel on Forza or Gran Turismo?
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those wheels are natively integrated so why would there be a problem?
 
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I much prefer to use the left stick than a KB, but I prefer to use the mouse for aiming. Can someone invent a left stick and mouse ;)

I'm terrible using a KB tbh, have been ever since controls moved on from z,x,k,m spacebar.
 
I'm currently playing Dark Souls on PC with a 360 Pad. There's a reason for that, it's better than using the mouse and keyboard!

But at the same time, I don't bother with my 360 pad when it comes to Skyrim on PC.

But yeah, Horses for Courses. Etc etc
 
ps3ud0 said:
No one here that can use a pad would ever say they wouldnt prefer to use a KB&M, but accept that thats a concession they made when they bought a console and/or a particular game.
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I can, I'd much rather use a controller than a KB&M, though that's because I admittedly suck at FPS games on a PC whereas I'm not quite as bad with a controller. I've been a console gamer for so long I pretty much only use my PC for strategy and simulation games you can't get on consoles.
 
So how do people feel about users using a controller to play FPS on a PC? We have a guy who's played COD with us since BLOPS1 on PC and he was outstanding using a controller for this.
 
Meekal said:
So how do people feel about users using a controller to play FPS on a PC? We have a guy who's played COD with us since BLOPS1 on PC and he was outstanding using a controller for this.
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no problem since controllers aren't as accurate or as fast as a mouse. he's putting himself at a huge disadvantage.

he likely has a very high game skill which makes up for him using a controller.

i once had some "training" by a pro player on CSS with my clan mates on an empty server (our clans own one) and he spoke to us through teamspeak or whatever chat client we had which we also needed to pay to have a sever for.

he basically taught us how we should be moving up certain parts of the map, where we should be looking and what we should be doing when going round certain corners, etc.

he told us where and when we should be lobbing grenades and the direction to place them in.

he told us when and where we should be pre-firing (this is basically shooting before you turn into a corner or hiding spot so that when you turn into it your already firing, so that if someone is there, they are dead before they see you and have time to react, meaning quick kills with no danger of being hurt).

he taught us what walls we should be hugging whilst moving forwards, etc too.

this guys game skill was on another level, he knew everything that's why he was a pro player.

you could have given him a controller and he would have owned average players using a mouse and KB.

controllers are inferior to mouse and KB on fps games, it's the mouse specifically which makes them superior, KB's are actually a poor input device for games.

PC games support mouse and keyboard natively most console games don't.

that's why it is cheating to use a mouse and KB on a console game.

if he wants to use an inferior input (controller) on a pc fps game then that's up to him, he would be stupid to do so though given how accurate and fast mice are, especially gaming mice.
 
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Been a Xim user for years.

99% of the negative opinions are from people who've never used one or seen one used.

They do give an accuracy advantage, but the vast majority of xim users are awful pc gamers and the xim confers such a small advantage you wouldn't know they're using one.

The small skilled minority of xim users are naturally better players and it is the decision making that let's us slaughter the masses of clueless noobs running around. We can do it with a controller too, in fact most of us had to at PS4 launch as we had no other choice.

I'll also add that the PS4 controller is so excellent I actually no longer use my Xim in BF4 on PS4, there is just no need.

Playing Ghosts with xim still give a decent advantage when spawning gets messy as you can genuinely turn on people, but fi someone has your back and doesn't kill you then they deserve death.

Decision making and not running around constantly challenging when at a disadvantage is a much better tool than the xim.

Tl:dr tinfoil hat people will tell you the sky is falling, the reality is good players are good and bad ones are bad, the xim doesn't do anything for the masses of terrible mouse and keyboard users that incorrectly believe because they are "old school" pc gamer they're also magically decent in an fps environment.
 
Fars said:
Been a Xim user for years.

99% of the negative opinions are from people who've never used one or seen one used.

They do give an accuracy advantage, but the vast majority of xim users are awful pc gamers and the xim confers such a small advantage you wouldn't know they're using one.

The small skilled minority of xim users are naturally better players and it is the decision making that let's us slaughter the masses of clueless noobs running around. We can do it with a controller too, in fact most of us had to at PS4 launch as we had no other choice.

I'll also add that the PS4 controller is so excellent I actually no longer use my Xim in BF4 on PS4, there is just no need.

Playing Ghosts with xim still give a decent advantage when spawning gets messy as you can genuinely turn on people, but fi someone has your back and doesn't kill you then they deserve death.

Decision making and not running around constantly challenging when at a disadvantage is a much better tool than the xim.

Tl:dr tinfoil hat people will tell you the sky is falling, the reality is good players are good and bad ones are bad, the xim doesn't do anything for the masses of terrible mouse and keyboard users that incorrectly believe because they are "old school" pc gamer they're also magically decent in an fps environment.
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Wow you are so pro
 
Fars said:
Been a Xim user for years.

99% of the negative opinions are from people who've never used one or seen one used.

They do give an accuracy advantage
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Well there it is - they do give an advantage.

I don't think I needed to see one or use one to know that but thanks for clearing it up anyway.
 
give the controller a bit of time
it feels really good once you get used to it
it's like pulling the trigger of the gun when you pull the trigger on a 360 controller :D
 
Do wonder why you bother posting Red and White, is it just to make yourself feel bigger and better on the inside or something? as not one of your replies is even remotely useful. (Awaits another useless reply).

I have given controllers plenty of time don't get me wrong, just having used a keyboard and mouse for so many years I prefer to use one and if there is an adapter on the market then so be it I was purely curious of what other peoples views would be of which hmm well its quite obvious so far that it's rather frowned upon which is fine :)
 
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K&M on a console is Bad, you shouldn't use a K&M, if you use them you're bad, cus K&M is bad, it's a bad thing to use a K&M, so don't be bad by using a K&M, mmKay
 
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