Fixed that - a subtle difference but worth making.
Kids who misbehave...
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Fixed that - a subtle difference but worth making.
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Nobody has said it does.
A functioning mind, on the other hand does.
I've already explained why and I've already explained why your claim that everything is predetermined and that isn't claiming that anything is predetermined contradicts itself.
But there's no point in me repeating myself again. You're not reading my posts and you believe that it's impossible for anyone to change their mind because you believe that nobody has a mind (predetermined responses to inputs is not a mind any more than, for example, water flowing downhill is a mind). So it's a total waste of time replying to you and I won't do it any more. Change the goalposts on the fly again if you like (as you've done already by changing "mind" to "brain" and "predetermined" to "decided by a god"). I won't take the bait again.
If I ever have children *shudders* I will bring them up in quite literally a house in the country, allow them to go to very select social hangouts, and nuture them.
I think a lot of what goes wrong in a childs upbringing is who they mix with and the whole "oneupmanship" that happens within a social group.
I think a lot of what goes wrong in a childs upbringing is who they mix with and the whole "oneupmanship" that happens within a social group.
Soldato
I have a 12 year old little girl ...and to be perfectly honest she never misbehaves , and knowing her like I do....I can say she never does because it just doesn't appeal to her in the least....although I suspect part of that is down to her Autistic Spectrum Disorder ( Aspergers Syndrome....shes very high functioning ) she would get a great deal more from sitting and reading something by Stephen Hawking or Brian Cox and she also wants to ( at school ) read books on and discuss quantum mechanics ...although she is highly intelligent and has a reading age that you would normally find in a sixteen and a half year old child ..plus her use of words are that of an adult , Her social skills are a big challenge for her , and she doesn't really understand body-language from others her own age ...and that can lead to some distress ...but as I said...she never misbehaves or is ever naughty
also she would want me to add lol....that even though shes only been at her new school for a very short time she is 4th in the entire school for her achievements points
also she would want me to add lol....that even though shes only been at her new school for a very short time she is 4th in the entire school for her achievements points
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So yeah you did say it, plain. As day and you are wrong and no i have not miss represented anything, you have dolne that. You assumed free will was proven and is required. Its not, watched the video, read the link i gave or even wiki.
No I am reading your posts and your wrong, for a start free will is not proven which you assume they are, secondly, read my post in reply to what i quoted.
I didnt change any goal posts so try again . You assumed free will was proven, its not. Thats your mistake not mine.
You also said that i misrepresented leading scientists say, again. Your wrong on that.
And it shows as you haven't replied to any point i made and staid been defensive without saying anything.
Watch the video, read the link i posted, or even just the wiki.
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Controlling doesn't work, select hangouts will simply make them not trust you because you won't be trusting them.
You need to actually interact with and teach your kids so when they go and hang out with people they are better prepared to make the right choices.
At some stage in life they will be beyond your control AND your teaching, great parents reliquish control and teach their kids to make the right choices. Those that don't reliquish control CAN'T teach their kids to make the right choices, you're making them for your child and the child can't learn.
Parents who think "protecting" their kids by not letting them hang out with supposedly bad people end up absolutely pushing kids towards whatever it is they think is bad.
If there is a bunch of kids who have a motorbike and that is the only group you decide your kid can't hang out with, you're basically saying to a kids mind "this is the group that is cool, does all the fun stuff and I'm just a douche who doesn't trust you and doesn't want you to have fun".
Parents tend to try and be controlling and also assume their kids will want/like the same things and people they do. It's also daft because, well look at all the peado's being found out of late. You don't know who is good and bad by the type of person they look like. People, kids included, have to decide what type of person they are, who THEY want to hang out with, and what they want to do when they hang out. You can only guide, teach and hope they make the right choices, forcing choices has historically.... never, ever, even come close to working.
Nice post OP.
It's good to see some teenagers have a brain and think about life now and then, instead of just 'all being idiots'.
Keep thinking about life and enjoy it
I thought that most people when they're about OP's ages start rebelling, asking questions about the world and coming up with similarly crap theories that have been thought of thousands of times previously.
and so did some of the most messed up people in history
just because it worked for you doesn't mean it works for everyone.