Kilometres and kg

^^ if you've no real need to use imperial then can see why you'd be 'against' it but if you're interested/involved in fabricating/construction or anything else that uses both then it's just not really a problem and would be familiar with both anyway regardless of age

some of the USA based fab/restoration etc channels on Youtube are brilliant and use (obvioulsy) imperial...worth the effort to know both, again if it's of any interest
 
Diddums said:
Metric all the way. Simply because it's how I was taught both at school and later engineering college, and I've never used imperial for anything other than ordering a pint (568ml ktnx).
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I bet you have!
What size shoes do you wear? What size waist are you? What length jeans do you buy? Chest size? Neck size? How much milk do you buy? Do you use a "cup" for your tea? Do you use tablespoons and teaspoons? What size are your car wheels? If you turn around are you turning 180 degrees or 50%? All of those (and much more) are still imperial units.
You use imperial every day without knowing about it because imperial units are based on real world values, and in that sense will always be superior to metric.
Metric is easier and more acurate for science application though, no doubt about that.

Blackjack Davy said:
That is the only problem with it :p Developed out of the French Revolution iirc they also had some wierd ideas about reclassifying measurements of time as well as dates/calender but they never caught on
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Yep. They wanted to use decimal time and 10 hour days IIRC, idiots. :cry:
 
slimithy said:
You use imperial every day without knowing about it because imperial units are based on real world values, and in that sense will always be superior to metric.
Metric is easier and more acurate for science application though, no doubt about that.
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That's simply not true. Take a trip to your grocery store.

Butter - 500 g
Coke - 330 ml
Soured cream - 300 ml
Scrumpy Jack - 440 ml
Bacon lardons - 200 g
Milk - 1.0 litres
Dog bones - 500 g

I get an annual check up including my weight - that's 70 kg. My dog gets the same treatment - 35 kg. For our business we use metal control cabinets. A typical size is 800 mm wide, 2000 mm high, and 400 mm deep. The letter box on my front door is 200 mm. Eye drops - a 10 ml container. All real world values.
 
slimithy said:
I bet you have!
What size shoes do you wear? What size waist are you? What length jeans do you buy? Chest size? Neck size? How much milk do you buy? Do you use a "cup" for your tea? Do you use tablespoons and teaspoons? What size are your car wheels? If you turn around are you turning 180 degrees or 50%? All of those (and much more) are still imperial units.
You use imperial every day without knowing about it because imperial units are based on real world values, and in that sense will always be superior to metric.
Metric is easier and more acurate for science application though, no doubt about that.
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Funniest post in a while. Because mundane things are still traditionally measured in inches, that means imperial is more relatable? :cry:

My little ones Calpol is a spoon that is equivalent to 2.5 and 5ml - check mate.
 
Graetzbridge said:
That's simply not true. Take a trip to your grocery store.

Butter - 500 g
Coke - 330 ml
Soured cream - 300 ml
Scrumpy Jack - 440 ml
Bacon lardons - 200 g
Milk - 1.0 litres
Dog bones - 500 g
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Yum Yum. When are you inviting me to dinner?
 
Graetzbridge said:
That's simply not true. Take a trip to your grocery store.

Butter - 500 g
Coke - 330 ml
Soured cream - 300 ml
Scrumpy Jack - 440 ml
Bacon lardons - 200 g
Milk - 1.0 litres
Dog bones - 500 g

I get an annual check up including my weight - that's 70 kg. My dog gets the same treatment - 35 kg. For our business we use metal control cabinets. A typical size is 800 mm wide, 2000 mm high, and 400 mm deep. The letter box on my front door is 200 mm. Eye drops - a 10 ml container. All real world values.
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Just checked the milk (sainsburys) and its 4 pints or 2.272 Litres. Coke is 2L though. We're a bit of a mess in this country aren't we.
 
englishpremier said:
You are aware that a foot isn't the length of a human foot since human feet are different sizes, thus miles are not then 1000 paces anymore than a 14HH horse is actually the size of 14 of my hands.
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I am... generally - I happen to be lucky in that my feet are 288/112, though, which means my booted foot is almost exactly 12", and since the elbow-wrist usually measures the same as the foot length I have two options. Both are precise enough that I don't really need a tape measure when visiting IKEA.
My thumb is an inch wide, my hand 4", various fingers also work out convenient measures. Imperial was based on such usage and remains useful as a ready reckoner, while even those who've known nothing but the metric system still seem to struggle visualising those units.

Pure Metric is for people who still count on their fingers. If it really was that much better, it would have completely replaced Imperial.
Instead, we choose based on the context, same as whether you're using mils or degrees on a compass.

englishpremier said:
As for sharing pizza, as one of the links discusses. Don't do that.
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No no, you go ahead and eat the whole thing yourself, you fat ****. I look forward to hearing how many centimetres it adds to your waistline.

EVH said:
but it would sound weird if you said “I ran 6.2 miles”
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It sounds equally weird when ex-SADF Saffers talk about running a "Two-Comma-Four" instead of the mile and a half that most services use for their basic fitness test.
 
ttaskmaster said:
You need to understand how Imperial evolved and how it relates to the world around you far better than metric... also, metric was invented by the French (as if that weren't reason enough to ignore it) and I believe was actually standardised about 30 years before Imperial, yet we still use Imperial to this day - You don't think there's a reason why people still prefer the latter?

https://transparentmath.com/2017/07...s-not-always-superior-to-the-imperial-system/
https://blog.stakeventures.com/articles/in-defence-of-imperial-units
^ This gives you some insight as to why...
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Absolute rubbish :cry:

What's 100cm divided by 4? 25. Why is that hard? Just pick the right magnitude notation for your requirement (mm/cm/m/km etc)

Dividing Pizza between people is irrelevant, what a terrible analogy
 
Blackjack Davy said:
Just checked the milk (sainsburys) and its 4 pints or 2.272 Litres. Coke is 2L though. We're a bit of a mess in this country aren't we.
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I quite like the story behind why bread is typically 800 or 400g loaves.

The weight of bread has been enshrined in many Acts of Parliament since 1266. Since The Bread Act of 1822 loaves, logically, always had to be a pound, or multiple thereof, but during the Second World War bakers were ordered to save precious flour by cutting their bread tins down to 14oz, a regulation that become law in 1963.

When Britain went metric, bakers argued that 14oz – 397 grams – should be converted to 400g because this would involve relatively little disruption to their factories. The conversion was made over the May Bank Holiday weekend of 1977 and since then it has been illegal not just to sell, but also to bake an imperial-weighted loaf.
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So our bread is baked to be 1 or 2 metric, rationed, pounds :)
 
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