King Charles III / Royal Family

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Yup and it's probably taken decades to find exactly how the cancers they can treat with them work in a way that then allowed them to start looking at how to deal with that specific cancer without risking damage to other cells. And in the process they've probably enabled advances in the treatment of a hundred other non cancer related diseases.

From what I understand, a lot of the problem with treating cancer is that most traditional methods can do major damage to the person with it, so there is an element of at what point is the risk from the cancer higher than the risk from the treatment, assuming you've found it early enough to get the luxury or not having to go straight into surgery.

So whilst it may appear that we've not made massive progress, in reality the ability to safely treat it has improved massively over the last 30-40 years, which combined with the ability to detect it early thanks to improvements in testing methods/technologies means there has been a lot of progress.
There's been some promising stuff with MRNA stuff recently, but MRNA is so tarnished from COVID CT peeps.
 
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The Princes trust for one, his interests in conservation, ecology etc. All Prince Charles had to do quite often was express an interest or comment on an issue and people were jumping over themselves to do something. He acts as a conduit frequently attaching funding to issues or problems and he is at a level where Presidents politicians and business people listen to what he says.
 
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But his done more than that, and again, what have you done that is better?
As you're implying I don't matter so what I do or don't is irrelevant, Charles however does and has an immensely privileged platform on which to get enough people moving in a direction so that millions may suffer less as a result.
 
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cancer research funding has run into the 100's of millions over the years and we seemed to have got nowhere.
Simply not true. You're never going to get rid of it though, people have to die eventually, the commonality of cancer is a symptom of living longer really.
 
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Not sure what people are expecting to see...

Could not care less. He has access to the world's best hospital treatment whereas my father went through months of treatment and wasn't splashed all over the press. People need to take stock and see that there really is no need for adulation of this very tarnished family.
 
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As you're implying I don't matter so what I do or don't is irrelevant, Charles however does and has an immensely privileged platform on which to get enough people moving in a direction so that millions may suffer less as a result.

He's done quite a bit for climate change though, no?

Plus all of these charities, he started the first charity with the money he earned after leaving the Navy

 
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Wealthy enough to jump the NHS queue though.
No. Private cancer treatment without NHS cover or PMI cover can cost upwards of £X00k. It depends what you have obviously.

The costs are incredible, you just don’t know it because it’s all absorbed by the state.

Paying out for a decent PMI plan out of your take home pay, even from an £85k salary will be a significant amount of cash, particularly if you are older or have any previous conditions.

Corporate plans are often good value because the risk is diversified across all the employees. If your taking it out as an individual, it’s a very different preposition.
Should have said *all* politicians.
In reality only a few politicians are truly wealthy, the few that are just happen to be the most high profile.

Don’t forget there are 650 MPs, most of them are really not.

I dont know for certain... and if you do i stand corrected! but i strongly suspect the job of an MP will come with a pretty high level of cover private health care!.

They are literally public servants with public servant packages. Public sector jobs don’t generally come with benefits packages other than a generous pension scheme.

As far as I am aware, no government employee gets PMI. It’s really not a good look for government officials to have PMI when they are literally in charge of the NHS.

They get:

Their base pay (£8Xk).

An experienced person from a professional background (doctor, lawyer or accountants) will be taking pay cuts if they go into politics.

A generous pension scheme which is similar to those given to other public servants.

Those who have additional roles in parliament or government get additional pay. This ranges depending on what it is.

An allowance for running a constituency office, a property in London if it’s away from your constituency and travel two and from London. These are on an expenses basis e.g. they have to spend the cash on qualifying items and get refunded after the fact.

 
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No. Private cancer treatment without NHS cover or PMI cover can cost upwards of £X00k. It depends what you have obviously.

The costs are incredible, you just don’t know it because it’s all absorbed by the state.

Paying out for a decent PMI plan out of your take home pay, even from an £85k salary will be a significant amount of cash, particularly if you are older or have any previous conditions.

Corporate plans are often good value because the risk is diversified across all the employees. If your taking it out as an individual, it’s a very different preposition.

In reality only a few politicians are truly wealthy, the few that are just happen to be the most high profile.

Don’t forget there are 650 MPs, most of them are really not.



They are literally public servants with public servant packages. Public sector jobs don’t generally come with benefits packages other than a generous pension scheme.

As far as I am aware, no government employee gets PMI. It’s really not a good look for government officials to have PMI when they are literally in charge of the NHS.

They get:

Their base pay (£8Xk).

An experienced person from a professional background (doctor, lawyer or accountants) will be taking pay cuts if they go into politics.

A generous pension scheme which is similar to those given to other public servants.

Those who have additional roles in parliament or government get additional pay. This ranges depending on what it is.

An allowance for running a constituency office, a property in London if it’s away from your constituency and travel two and from London. These are on an expenses basis e.g. they have to spend the cash on qualifying items and get refunded after the fact.

That's not what I meant.
My father was in for something and he was told months, he paid something like £1200 (don't quote me on it exactly) and was seen the next week by the same surgeon.
 
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Besides a few rare principled individuals the rest of parliament are more than happy with the pay 'cut' because they get an opulent pension for life all for minimal work and endless connections to lobbyists some of whom have a lovely golden parachute ready for the especially greedy ones.
 
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The BBC have gone completely overboard on this. I feel for the King and wouldn't wish cancer on anybody, but the BBC are acting like he's dead already.

The only thing to take the headlines and spotlight away from the Mail's constant denigration of Meghan is this news about Charles. Let's not pretend it is only the BBC who are trumpeting a sad but otherwise non newsworthy story on repeat.
 
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Yes - the bbc seem to feel they have responsibility to push the modernisation (social media oversharing - what the bright young things want) of the monarchy - or, still paying their dues for bashir & jim'll fix it.
 
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As far as I am aware, no government employee gets PMI. It’s really not a good look for government officials to have PMI when they are literally in charge of the NHS.

They get:

Their base pay (£8Xk).

An experienced person from a professional background (doctor, lawyer or accountants) will be taking pay cuts if they go into politics.

I'm not sure exactly how it works but there might be *some* provision for the PM (or indeed some other ministers, perhaps those who have pritection details) because of their role. For example see Boris when he had Covid, he had doctors evaluate him at Downing Street then make a decision to send him straight to St Thomas'... but at St Thomas' he was in the private wing AFAIK.

In terms of government employees/civil servant types in general, it is a bit iffy but I know the BOE provides private medical cover for their staff, though it also doesn't exactly pay them very well.

The royals on the other hand have always had not only had private medical cover but a number of specific individuals appointed as their surgeons, physicians etc.. including permament medical staff at the palace, a personal physician who travels with them etc. I don't think you can get better access than that, even the top concierge medical stuff millionaires/billionaires in the US might pay for aren't going to compete with top specialists clearing their schedules because the King has called upon them etc..
 
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No. Private cancer treatment without NHS cover or PMI cover can cost upwards of £X00k. It depends what you have obviously.

The costs are incredible, you just don’t know it because it’s all absorbed by the state.

Paying out for a decent PMI plan out of your take home pay, even from an £85k salary will be a significant amount of cash, particularly if you are older or have any previous conditions.

Corporate plans are often good value because the risk is diversified across all the employees. If your taking it out as an individual, it’s a very different preposition.

In reality only a few politicians are truly wealthy, the few that are just happen to be the most high profile.

Don’t forget there are 650 MPs, most of them are really not.



They are literally public servants with public servant packages. Public sector jobs don’t generally come with benefits packages other than a generous pension scheme.

As far as I am aware, no government employee gets PMI. It’s really not a good look for government officials to have PMI when they are literally in charge of the NHS.

They get:

Their base pay (£8Xk).

An experienced person from a professional background (doctor, lawyer or accountants) will be taking pay cuts if they go into politics.

A generous pension scheme which is similar to those given to other public servants.

Those who have additional roles in parliament or government get additional pay. This ranges depending on what it is.

An allowance for running a constituency office, a property in London if it’s away from your constituency and travel two and from London. These are on an expenses basis e.g. they have to spend the cash on qualifying items and get refunded after the fact.

cool. so from what you are saying my job may pay like crap but I may have better health care than the PM

on a serious note.... those who say it's queue jumping when you have private health care.... it isn't , or at least not according to the consultant who operated on my knee.
i had a bursal cyst and it was a 6 month NHS wait as it was elective . I asked to go private and used my insurance, within 2-3 weeks I had had the MRI and was booked in for the OP.
the consultant I saw was the same one I would likely have seen on NHS so did I queue jump?

maybe just copium however the consultant said the only reason experienced staff tend to stay with the NHS was because of the private work. he did X% NHS and Y% private with the vast amount of his profit made on private.

IF he was forced to do just NHS he claimed he would just go and work abroad.
 
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cool. so from what you are saying my job may pay like crap but I may have better health care than the PM

on a serious note.... those who say it's queue jumping when you have private health care.... it isn't , or at least not according to the consultant who operated on my knee.
i had a bursal cyst and it was a 6 month NHS wait as it was elective . I asked to go private and used my insurance, within 2-3 weeks I had had the MRI and was booked in for the OP.
the consultant I saw was the same one I would likely have seen on NHS so did I queue jump?

maybe just copium however the consultant said the only reason experienced staff tend to stay with the NHS was because of the private work. he did X% NHS and Y% private with the vast amount of his profit made on private.

IF he was forced to do just NHS he claimed he would just go and work abroad.
Free market economics. Can't have your cake and eat it. Unfortunately society has and always will be a hierarchy of haves and have nots. Youd have to be pretty woke/communist to not get that.
 
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