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** KINGPIN HAS ENTERED THE WEBSITE!! **

What would you consider a safe zone for 1.4Ghz voltage wise though for 24/7 use? Genuine question, as I wouldn't be happy running the card for gaming stints at over 1.3v.
 
Well if EVGA had to roll over for any leeway then the likes of their customers have no chance. I notice ASUS tweeted your results thread from the 290X runs...I'll be sure to reply to any tweets from NV if they dare quote your Kingpin results lol.
 
Kingpin clarified that they went with Samsung memory due it's performance characteristics solely under LN2 versus the other memory types. So for people on liquid and below with Hynix performing considerably better, the regular Ti Classified is a better card for that cooling use.
 
Vega said:
Kingpin clarified that they went with Samsung memory due it's performance characteristics solely under LN2 versus the other memory types. So for people on liquid and below with Hynix performing considerably better, the regular Ti Classified is a better card for that cooling use.
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Got ya, thanks for the clarification
 
Ya, I decided to keep my cards. I missed the delivery guy by 15 min today so I am staying put at home tomorrow till I get these :D
 
triss said:
http://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2102889

Basicaly if your on air or water dont assume a kingpin will beat a classy
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Thanks for the link.

Horses mouth:

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It depends man. In some cases the KPE will be faster because the cores will generally be better and clock higher even on air, but also a really higher clocking classified ti hynix card with really good core could beat a KPE Ti with a lesser core and samsung. Again this is on air though and both cards are limited thermally on air for sure, your not comparing much. Remove the thermal limit more and more and its obvious which one is the screamer. That's kinda normal tho.
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Makes perfect sense really. Same with any binning, you can always end up with a dud / corker.
 
Vega said:
Ok, just did some exhaustive testing with a Kingpin vs regular Ti Classified battle. All the power settings are the same between the cards. I did these tests in 3x Portrait mode, as that is what I use for gaming. The figures are the best the cards could do artifact free, and memory crash free. These are the average of the benchmarks:

My best Kingpin: ------- 1424 Core / 7600 Mem / 116.3 FPS
Ti Classified Stock Mem: 1424 Core / 7000 Mem / 110.2 FPS
Ti Classified Same Mem: 1424 Core / 7600 Mem / 114.9 FPS
Ti Classified Max Mem: 1424 Core / 8400 Mem / 119.7

So, a few things that came out of this. My best Kingpin does the same as my best Ti Classified core. My other Kingpin does less core. Same core and same Mem freq between them, the Kingpin ended up being 1.2% faster. So the Samsung memory does have slightly tighter timings. Now bump up the Classified's Mem to it's max, and I get a 3% gain in performance over the best my Kingpin can do.

So it comes down to my Ti Classified being the fastest card I have. I will hold onto the Kingpin to see if EVGA can work on the memory situation, it's whats really holding this card back.

Oh, I also found out that 600 KHz PWM on the Kingpin actually raises the under load voltage higher than the same setting on the Ti Classified. As an example, 1.35v on EVBOT gives DMM 1.45v on the Kingpin, and 1.35v on EVBOT gives 1.42v on the Ti Classified.
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Its actually a function of voltage applied and core speed that dictates the overvolting. e.g 1.45v 1700mhz peak on dmm 1.65v. Yes that much. I tested. This peak tends to be when tessalation is high or when boost kicks in.

Those guys who think they are at 1.4 and say 1400 really your not!!!
 
Exactly, on OCN a lot of members have reported this. A good DMM is a must with these cards!

I just got both of mine 30 minutes ago, they are beautiful! Definitely feel worth every penny already!
 
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