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FoxEye said:
The only people who should be buying from a breeder are people who have done their homework, and know exactly why they looking at that particular breed in the first place.

I'm somewhat saddened that anyone would say, "It's cheaper to get one from a shelter." Minimising the cost shouldn't be anywhere near the top of your considerations. You're not buying a new rug or a light fitting.

If a few hundred quid is "expensive" then how the heck are people going to afford to feed and care for them afterwards? The cost of vet bills, or insurance, toys, food, etc, it's at least a grand a year on average.
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To be honest we considered our cats to be a bargain and would have happily paid more.

We got them from cats protection as we didn't care about breed and taking them from a shelter is the best way to get a pet IMHO.

We were lucky to end up with kittens and the best breed (tuxedo)
 
Holst1981 said:
To be honest we considered our cats to be a bargain and would have happily paid more.

We got them from cats protection as we didn't care about breed and taking them from a shelter is the best way to get a pet IMHO.

We were lucky to end up with kittens and the best breed (tuxedo)
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Never heard of that one... now you need to post some pics :p

Ah it's not a breed is a patternation :) (like calico or tortoiseshell)
 
Most (all) breeders of so called purebreds shouldn’t be allowed within 15 foot of any animal. Disgusting what they have done. Just look at Alsatians as an example.

Buy from a shelter and don’t support the industry.
 
=XDC=FluphyBunny said:
Most (all) breeders of so called purebreds shouldn’t be allowed within 15 foot of any animal. Disgusting what they have done. Just look at Alsatians as an example.

Buy from a shelter and don’t support the industry.
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Or do your homework and buy from a good/reputable breeder. It's not hard.
 
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Looks like I’ve just adopted another one :D - there’s something about Kazakhstan family’s that as soon as their child torments a pet to the point in defends itself they offload it.
 
potatolord said:
My last cat was a feral tom. He attacked one of the guys in the sorting office where the ex worked, and would have been put down if she hadn't brought him home.

He was enormous, covered in scars, only had one ear and was extremely violent when we got him. He turned out to be quite jolly after a month or so of regular feeding.

I saw him once dragging a large ham over our fence. He'd stolen it from next door.

You have to love a cat like that. He had style.
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Haha love it. :D

FoxEye said:
So should all pedigree breeds just die out then?
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Honestly, yes. Breeders are only interested in appearance for appearance sake take, bengals are typically F3 - F5 hybrids that means 3rd generation from the original cross onwards F1's are too wild to be considered pets and F2 have extremely high energy levels and require careful handling, thats one and possibly two generations that have to live in cages simply to serve the whim of human owners for whats basically cosmetic reasons. And the list of genetic defects in dogs from brachycephalic heads to heart problems all caused by breeding for looks or to meet some ideal "kennel standard" of the breed which is often far from the original working dogs they derived from.
 
Blackjack Davy said:
Honestly, yes. Breeders are only interested in appearance for appearance sake take, bengals are typically F3 - F5 hybrids that means 3rd generation from the original cross onwards F1's are too wild to be considered pets and F2 have extremely high energy levels and require careful handling, thats one and possibly two generations that have to live in cages simply to serve the whim of human owners for whats basically cosmetic reasons. And the list of genetic defects in dogs from brachycephalic heads to heart problems all caused by breeding for looks or to meet some ideal "kennel standard" of the breed which is often far from the original working dogs they derived from.
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Well we'll have to agree to disagree. So long as animal welfare is not compromised I don't see the harm in having different recognised breeds.

Genetic defects and lack of gene variety are routinely addressed via outcrossing these days.

Bengals and Savannahs are hardly representative of most domestic cat and dog breeds, you'll have to admit.

Painting all breeders as making money from the abuse of animals is highly unfair.
 
They were only a day old when I found them, originally there were 3 but the mother came back and only took 1, left them as long as I could but they were cold and hungry.
Luckily myself and the wife worked shift so we could feed them every 2 hours
They are now 5 years old and seem ok and have yearly check ups at the vets
 
Blackjack Davy said:
Haha love it. :D



Honestly, yes. Breeders are only interested in appearance for appearance sake take, bengals are typically F3 - F5 hybrids that means 3rd generation from the original cross onwards F1's are too wild to be considered pets and F2 have extremely high energy levels and require careful handling, thats one and possibly two generations that have to live in cages simply to serve the whim of human owners for whats basically cosmetic reasons. And the list of genetic defects in dogs from brachycephalic heads to heart problems all caused by breeding for looks or to meet some ideal "kennel standard" of the breed which is often far from the original working dogs they derived from.
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Going to disagree with that swooping generalisation. Ragdoll breeders have actively bred out the genetic defects that were originally present.
 
Our first was £8 in 2006, still with us and pretty healthy.

Second was free. My wife stopped traffic on a busy road to prevent the body being run over again and he was just about alive. Jaw sewn back together and a bit of time in the vets and he’s been my daughters best friend since. Likely a feral lol :p
 
For those with pedigree cats is it realistic to keep your pet indoors if living in a semi busy neighbourhood and my property has ‘easy’ access to a garden.
 
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