Kyle Rittenhouse - teen who shot three people in Kenosha

MissChief said:
There's a reason past criminal history isn't allowed to be disclosed to Jurists.
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FML... this guy just can't read and has already got plenty of basic facts wrong about the case. Now he's arguing against a point that was never made even after it has been pointed out/explained to him.
 
MissChief said:
There's a reason past criminal history isn't allowed to be disclosed to Jurists.
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Do you mean unreleated past criminal activity?
Because i find it hard to believe that in case were the defendent has robbed someone, they would not bring up in court that they have done this previously.

Also I'm guessing the reason is to avoid biasing the Jury and having them convict a person based on previous criumes rather than the actual evidence produced in court?
 
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MissChief said:
Not at all, I'm just worried about the repercussions and how some will take the ruling to extremes.
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And that is the problem of the people who do that. It's not normal to take this as a green light to go around indiscriminately shooting people . If someone does, then they were likely not far away from being locked up!
 
LOL, one of my daughters friends is having a hissy fit about the verdict and threatening violence and how future protestors should be out there shooting first..

What is it with the Woke Left? It's textbook cognitive dissonance..
 
Demon said:
LOL, one of my daughters friends is having a hissy fit about the verdict and threatening violence and how future protestors should be out there shooting first..

What is it with the Woke Left? It's textbook cognitive dissonance..
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Brainwashed. I bet she didn't react like that when that Trump supporter got shot and killed by an Antifa member in Portland.... one BLM activist said and I quote "im not sad a fascist died tonight".
 
Anyway on some lighthearted notes - here is prosecution star witness (who confirmed, on the stand, that he pointed his gun at Rittenhouse before being shot!) falling off his chair - Rittenhouse's lawyer laughing, Rittenhsous having to duck under the table to avoid being seen laughing...


And here's Huber's dad indicating what a classy household the skateboarder attacker grew up in... as he flips the bird at the judge!

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Of course, the prosecutors were as dodgy as ever in trying to get Kyle even back then, the Judge clearly didn't even trust the DA's office at that point either, was worried about them leaking the new address:

https://www.wisconsinrightnow.com/2021/02/11/hubers-dad-flips-him-off/

But the judge said that Binger indicated that he knew Rittenhouse was not at that address back at his initial appearance and was likely living in a “safe house” for his own protection even back then. Thus, the judge questioned why it was suddenly a huge problem now, saying that many defendants fail to update their addresses with the court, and warrants are never issued for their arrest.

“You knew this at the time of the initial appearance,” said Schroeder. At another point, he said, “He was not put under condition of living at a specific address. That could have been done. The district attorney was aware of what he now refers to as flying the coop. There’s no change in circumstance there.”

The judge agreed Rittenhouse was in violation of that provision on updating the address but didn’t deem it serious enough to take punitive action. Just because the court tries to keep track of defendants’ addresses for the purpose of mailing them notices doesn’t mean that there’s a “restriction on place of abode,” he said. Schroeder said a restriction of where Rittenhouse can live could have been requested by the DA’s office at the initial appearance – but wasn’t.

On the warrant, he said, “I do not believe it’s possible to issue a warrant. I don’t think that would be lawful, no matter what feelings anyone has. I took an oath.” He disagreed with Binger’s statement that bail is a privilege, calling it a “right in the Constitution.”

Binger admitted he was not alleging such. “I am asking the court to increase the bond, however,” he added. Binger acknowledged that there is not the clear and convincing evidence necessary to seek bail revocation.

The judge did require that Rittenhouse submit his exact address – not a PO Box – to the court, but it will remain under seal. The judge refused to give the address to the DA’s office. He said he wanted to keep the case under seal to prevent additional violence, describing what happened in Kenosha as “ghastly.”

He said the number of defendants who fail to update their address with the court is 10% or maybe significantly more. “I’ve never jailed those people and never heard of another judge jailing those people,” said Schroeder.
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Lastly, someone who knew star witness Gage trolled him in the DM's and we can see what sort of character he is from his reactions/veiled threats made in response:

edit - warning swearing in the screenshots, here is a direct link to the tweet, not embedding it after all:

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1461486743044165642

His last criminal offence was for hitting his own grandmother in the face... this was the prosecution's star witness, the guy whose phone they refused to search and who they didn't bother charging for the actually illegal weapon he brought to a riot - interestingly had he been on bond for a current offence then it could have been brought up in court, rather useful for the state that it was dismissed and that they didn't search his phone and find anything else incriminating:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...reer-criminal-charges-dropped-just-trial.html

These include domestic abuse, prowling, trespass, two DUIs, felony burglary and two charges of carrying a firearm while intoxicated - one of which took place when he was banned as a felon from carrying a firearm.

He also has a history of showing disdain for the law by lying to, and failing to co-operate with, police.

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Had Grosskreutz's latest DUI charge not been dismissed in such a timely manner Rittenhouse's defense would have been allowed to question him under oath about the fact that he was on bond and the nature of his offense.
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Also, his earliest adult offence is rather WTF:

The earliest report seen by DailyMail.com dates to 2010 and involves an incident in which Grosskreutz struck his own grandmother in the face and smashed a lamp, damaging the dry wall against which he hurled it.

He also has a juvenile record which is sealed.
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How much of a scumbag do you have to be to attack your own grandmother? Totally normal people we're dealing with here, could have happened to anyone, normal people will totally chase down and attack or threaten people with AR-15s in riots all the time.
 
Colonel_Klinck said:
I've no issue with that verdict under US law. However the fact a child can walk the streets with a weapon of war is just so ****** up.
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lol yep. Hopefully any sane person should realise that a young boy joining a militia to do the job of the police is bonkers.

Edit: Also very worrying how the backgrounds of the victims are being brought up as some kind of justification. Feels very ethnic cleansing :cry:
 
Tried by a jury of his peers and found not guilty based on the evidence presented in court. Seems a text book case of how justice in a decent country is delivered. Of course the finding of the court will be contested it is to say the least to controversial a case for anything else to happen. He will still have to live with his actions and not many kill and escape the scars no matter what the circumstances. hopefully this will be a lesson to all be they protesters or vigilantes that playing with guns is a dangerous business.
 
Colonel_Klinck said:
I've no issue with that verdict under US law. However the fact a child can walk the streets with a weapon of war is just so ****** up.
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Not surprised really, you can walk into Walmart (ASDA) and walk out with a gun of your choosing.

a1ex2001 said:
Tried by a jury of his peers and found not guilty based on the evidence presented in court. Seems a text book case of how justice in a decent country is delivered. Of course the finding of the court will be contested it is to say the least to controversial a case for anything else to happen. He will still have to live with his actions and not many kill and escape the scars no matter what the circumstances. hopefully this will be a lesson to all be they protesters or vigilantes that playing with guns is a dangerous business.
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The verdict was with prejudice which means he cannot be brought to court for this ever again.
 
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