Someones past doesn't have any relevance on whether they should be extra-judicially killed.
Kyle Rittenhouse - teen who shot three people in Kenosha
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Someones past doesn't have any relevance on whether they should be extra-judicially killed.
What a surprise you can’t answer so you just deflect again. This is why you keep things vague.
Better than demanding someone just repeat themselves when its all written down a few pages back.
Again, it isn't my problem if you can't be bothered to follow it.
True but chasing someone down the street, in the manner we have seen in the videos, ain't self defence.
That would depend on a number of circumstances.
Better than demanding someone just repeat themselves when its all written down a few pages back.
Again, it isn't my problem if you can't be bothered to follow it.
More deflection, you made a claim I asked you for a specific example, this poster called it:
Incorrect. This is Dowie 101.
Can't address the points made adequately. Claim everything is vague. Then ask the poster to repeat themselves.
Standard.
OK, what point have I failed to address then? Go ahead and highlight it.
I’ve been proactively asking you to clarify your vague claims. I’ve asked you for a specific example of where I’ve shown a double standard. When it gets down to any specifics you just avoid and deflect. I’ve done the opposite, I’ve asked that you point out anything that isn’t clear and offered to clarify.
Soldato
Some gun permits in the US you have to have your gun/rifle in plain sight.
They call it open carry, which is different to the concealed carry.
I just checked that in Wisconsin you can open carry without needing a permit.
They call it open carry, which is different to the concealed carry.
I just checked that in Wisconsin you can open carry without needing a permit.
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Kyle had a right to defend himself, whether the others perceived him to be an "active shooter" is irrelevant, it doesn't nullify his right to self defence.
Indeed! He seems to miss that, I pointed out that perhaps the skateboarder was trying to arrest/apprehend. It’s a bit moot as he’s dead/not on trial. Kyle is on trial here not them.
It does open him to reckless use of a firearm though/reckless homicide , if it is found/the jury perceive him to have had involvement in starting the whole affair though (which was my entire point earlier today). I have never said he doesnt have a right to self defense. But if his actions have led to him having to use deadly force in self defense then that is where the trouble will lie for him.
"Former Waukesha County District Attorney Paul Bucher said prosecutors’ decision to charge reckless instead of intentional homicide shows they don’t know what happened between Rittenhouse and Rosenbaum and what might have been going through Rittenhouse’s mind when he pulled the trigger."
(https://apnews.com/article/kyle-rit...nsin-kenosha-3febaa501c57a6b54e168353fe0b2a26)
Which is my entire point..
I havent missed it at all. See post above.
Associate
He 17 years old he is running around with semi automatic weapon and police drive by him without stopping wow! And Gaige Grosskreutz who trained as a paramedic carrying medical supplies as well as a loaded pistol in peaceful protests! What was the medical supplies for! and wasn't he the same guy in Milwaukee in the days after the May 2020 murder of George Floyd protests this guy get around too much free time on hands. Welcome to gun mad America again.
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Wisconsin doesn't even have a stand your ground law / Castle doctrine in place ( which is quite common in the rest of the US) let alone a 'chase a fleeing person down the road and attack them law/ doctrine'
You would need very good reason to chase and attack someone in this manner and able able to invoke self defence.
Most of us have watched the videos and know the claim of self defence for the three people shot is risible.
You’ve avoided addressing it at all. Now you’re just quoting something and saying that’s your point. Keeping it all vague as usual… No one disputed that there is a difference between the first and second incident.
Okay? Do you have anything to suggest "he started the whole affair" or are you just proposing hypotheticals?
Yeah, I think the self-defence claim is total bunk there but the other poster just deflects/avoids getting into any specifics there. I did suggest to him that the skateboard guy might have been trying to arrest/apprehend Kyle to try and get past that and onto whatever point he was trying to make but it's still not clear and he doesn't seem to want to clarify after several attempts to ask.
Could keep it vague even - supposing @Jono8 , for the sake of argument, that the skateboarder had some *good reason* to chase after Kyle... then what? What's the argument? Do you think that nullifies Kyle's right to self defence?
Caporegime
Is he free yet?
Well that is the crux of the trial surely? I'm not proposing any more hypotheticals than anyone else. Unfortunately the guy is dead, so we can't hear his version of events.
Incorrect you can join the military in the US and start training at 17
It's amazing the whataboutery we get about state lines and being 17 rather than 18 with this case.
As if these people would be fine if Kyle was 18 and /or had come from Wisconsin and not Illinois.
It's all defelction because they know there should not be a case against Kyle for shooting thoose three deadbeats
look, it isnt may fault if you havent been following from the start of my posts today Dowie.
You can **** and moan about me being vague all you like but im not going to spoon feed you what i have already written.