Lad breaks into a house and is killed...

But to make the statement that killing someone over your new HDTV is worthwhile is a ridiculous thing to say.?
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It's about the TV, if a friend broke a TV you wouldn't attack them. But a burgalar deserves everything he has coming to him.
 
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If someone breaks into your house you don't think "Hmm I must use reasonable force here but not kill him" - For all the VICTIM of the burglary knows the burglar might kill him and use more than reasonable force. If the kid did commit the crime then I don't blame the killer one bit, infact I'm not even going to label the guy a killer i'll label him VICTIMx2 because he was getting burgled and now has to live with the fact he's killed someone so he's the biggest victim in this. I ofcourse have sympathy for the family of the burglar but then again if they had done a better job....
 
I cannot believe the rampant stupidity displayed by those defending Tyler on that Facebook page, telling people he did not deserve to die and in the same breath telling people they should die for posting stuff on the page... WTF? All in broken english and "txt speak" of course.

Of course the people doing the goading must have been dropped on their heads as children, some of the stuff they are coming out with is just inappropriate.
 
Dolph said:
Sounds like a good reason to end pointless and draconian restrictions on firearms ownership to me :)

Being serious for a moment, US states don't differ that much in terms of reasonable force laws to the UK, even the castle doctrine in texas (one of the most pro-homeowner states) doesn't allow you to shoot someone in the back as they are running away, for example. The difference is the in likelyhood of encountering significant resistance, something that our government has been determined to restrict for a very long time, despite the fact that the police can only ever be a reactive force.
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I thought that the castle doctrine allowed you to shoot anyone in or on your property without permission for any reason whatsoever. I didnt think it mattered if they were running out of your house..If theyre still on your property, theyre fair game..Or have i got that wrong?

Also, if its nighttime, you are allowed to shoot them right in the back to prevent them from fleeing after committing a crime.

I also believe youre allowed to shoot someone for stealing someone elses stuff :o
Also if they are in your car without permission you can shoot them.
 
Skyfall said:
I cannot believe the rampant stupidity displayed by those defending Tyler on that Facebook page, telling people he did not deserve to die and in the same breath telling people they should die for posting stuff on the page... WTF? All in broken english and "txt speak" of course.

Of course the people doing the goading must have been dropped on their heads as children, some of the stuff they are coming out with is just inappropriate.
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but youre ok with people in here saying the the probably illegal use of deadly force was justified in response to burglary...
 
I don't condone stabbing someone who is trespassing on property, but if they're acting with intent to cause harm then they're fair game for pretty much what happens to them IMO. No government scheme is potent or un-laughable enough to set these little scrotes straight, so people defending themselves in their homes only do us all a favour (financially and socially) as many young offenders will never stop until a) they're banged up or b) dead.

As for what I've learned from this situation, it seems that what could possibly worse than losing your life as a crim on the job is the absolute field day the internet will have tearing you apart.
 
Balddog said:
I thought that the castle doctrine allowed you to shoot anyone in or on your property without permission for any reason whatsoever. I didnt think it mattered if they were running out of your house..If theyre still on your property, theyre fair game..Or have i got that wrong?
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From what you've said you could host a book club meeting, murder all the members and just shrug at the police.
 
Balddog said:
I thought that the castle doctrine allowed you to shoot anyone in or on your property without permission for any reason whatsoever. I didnt think it mattered if they were running out of your house..If theyre still on your property, theyre fair game..Or have i got that wrong?
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Yes. There's a lot of misleading information about castle doctrines and what they do and don't allow, and a fair amount of caselaw that looks to allow things on the surface, but when you examine it in detail confirms the limitations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_Doctrine

Also, if its nighttime, you are allowed to shoot them right in the back to prevent them from fleeing after committing a crime.

I also believe youre allowed to shoot someone for stealing someone elses stuff :o
Also if they are in your car without permission you can shoot them.
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Depends on the state, and whether they have duty to retreat legislation and in what guise. However, the bottom line in most cases is that the laws aren't that different to the UK, with the exception of weapon laws and concealed carry laws to back up the self defence aspect.
 
From that FB page

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