Lad breaks into a house and is killed...

As others have said, not enough information to make a good judgement of whether it was justified self defence or not.

The law is pretty good at weeding out self defence from vigilantism, despite what some of the media will have you believe, so hopefully the full story will come out soon enough.
 
"oh he was such a lovely boy"

Give it a ******* rest, its the typical response of parents who dont know what their kid gets up to.

edit: Im not saying robbers deserve death, but if you put yourself in that situation, tough crap im afraid.
 
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Death is not a justified penalty for Burglary but he made the choice to break the law and suffered the consequences. Certainly not going to see any sympathy from me.
 
Still would like all the details but on based on what I have read so far, a dead scrote, GOOD :)
Hope the homeowner can get his carpets cleaned up
 
Sounds like he wasn't actually in the flat, and that the stabbing was done by neighbors. That's a couple of steps over the line.

Glad to hear that the other guy who shot an intruder in his house was found innocent of murder though.
 
As already said, it's difficult to comment without knowing all the facts. Article certainly makes him sound like a degenerate, especially with memorials titled “RIP Tyler — a Bulwell solja”. Murder/defense aside, parents shouldn't be allowing their kids to be part of that sort of culture.
 
Johno please? said:
"oh he was such a lovely boy"

Give it a ******* rest, its the typical response of parents who dont know what their kid gets up to.

The more robbing horrible little cretins that get wiped off the face of this planet the better.

edit: Im not saying robbers deserve death, but if you put yourself in that situation, tough crap im afraid.
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He looks inbred TBH


edit: Hes also called Tyler and as he's white this would indicate chav scum ;)
 
rayer said:
Trouble is, at that time in the morning and in that situation, you dont know if he is going to burgle, rape, murder...........

One less criminal to worry about.
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But we don't have the facts of the situation here - let's take a hypothetical approach here - the lad was invited in by the homeowner (for a nefarious purpose or not) and then they got into an argument, homeowner stabs Mr Juett and then claims he was being robbed and in fear for his life. In that situation is Mr Juett still a criminal and deserves to die (I'm going to ignore the obvious disparity in proportional response for the sake of continuing the argument) or has the homeowner been the aggressor or is there fault on both sides?

The situation highlighted above is merely one example of why we should never have an absolute right to attack those in our homes. You have the right to self defence but that does not extend to protecting your property per se, that is what has been decided by society, property is less valuable than life and rightly so, you can replace a TV but you can't replace a life.
 
Kenneth Batchelor, 51, fired a shotgun at Matthew Clements, 42, at point blank range at his home in Chilham but was acquitted by a jury at Maidstone Crown Court.
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Yeah.... good luck finding a jury (who largely own their own homes) to convict a man defending his house/self who will convict on murder charges.

Seeing as how the law was changed for drink-driving "murders" - dont we need a lesser sentence than murder for someone defending their house/family?
 
Aren't the rules based on whether is is "pre meditated" in defending your home?

For example, the home owner will go down if he keeps a weapon like a cosh or hunting knife in his beside cabinet and use that to defend himself then he is in bother.

If he just grabs something to hand and uses it in self defence then he is is fine.
 
Ive thought about this many times as there has been a few burglaries in our locale in the past couple of months. I have got two big thick iron bars in easy to reach but slightly hidden locations, on upstairs and one downstairs. I wouldn't be prepared to pick u a knife as a first option, but, if I was fearful for the safety of myself, mum or girlfriend I guess I would resort to it.

I hope that the homeowner in this case is aquitted ,so long as the lad wasn't stabbed in the back, whilst trying to run away like with Tony Martin who shot his two burglars whilst the were doing just that.
 
Death is defiantly not an equal punishment for burglary. But saying that, we are now in a time where every knife, gun and violent crime is reported on, adding the fact their street has suffered a spout of burglaries i would say it's very reasonable for the home owners to be a bit more cautions. You never know what people are carrying around these days and it's not like you can ask him

"right mate... do you have any weapons on you?"

If they felt their lives were threatened as it quite possible they are then they are within their right to defend themselves.

Saying that... i don't know the details of what actually happened thus making what i said only an opinion.
 
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