Which is why it's important to make people who've chosen to come and contribute to the UK economy feel welcome instead of vilifying them in the press daily.
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Which is why it's important to make people who've chosen to come and contribute to the UK economy feel welcome instead of vilifying them in the press daily.
Nothing to with being racist but nice troll attempt.
Soldato
Sorry I quoted you to add to what you wrote.
I agree wholehearted with what you've said so far.
Most of the problems are caused by the poorer countries being given full rights to roam across Europe, I mean why would you stay in a Village in Romania when you can get on a coach to London and join your friends who seem to be happy here. I don't blame them or resent them for it, it's clear they've come from a poorer background judging by the living conditions they tolerate and the way they dump rubbish.
How may of us would be making our way to the US, Canada or Austrailia if suddenly we were able to migrate freely?
There's hundreds of thousands of Brits in Spain, we've got a bit of a cheek moaning about immigration really. Especially by the way some Brits behave themselves.
How may of us would be making our way to the US, Canada or Austrailia if suddenly we were able to migrate freely?
There's hundreds of thousands of Brits in Spain, we've got a bit of a cheek moaning about immigration really. Especially by the way some Brits behave themselves.
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What a ridiculous comment. Suppression of wages and schools/hospitals/services stretched to breaking point. Yeah really good...
The only people who think this is good is the bosses who can hire people at min wage in the thousands.
Immigrants are a net positive to our economy so how about directing your anger towards the correct people? ie the useless politicians who haven't spent this extra money on increasing public services
The amount of people here who lack critical thinking and believe any old crap they are told is utterly depressing, gullible ignoramuses
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Don't get me wrong I completely understand the attraction of the points system, and the allowance of a more systemic immigration approach. However I don't think we would have a solution that is fluid enough. Lots of us emigrate to the EU with ease, surely we want to continue to make it easy in all directions? But that's just the EU, so what's the problem with that? The actual number of non EU immigrants is tiny and rather insignificant. Sure some do not make an effort as much as they should, but generally this is the exception to the rule.
I think we have a duty of care to offer legitimate asylum seekers a chance to settle here should they choose to. I accept illegal immigration is not generally welcomed, but neither are benefit cheats, or tax dodgers, and many other British (non immigrant legal or not) people who flaunt the law and make the life for the rest of us miserable and costing us money. Attributing that solely to immigrants (or even illegal immigrants) is actually erroneous - there are more problems within the UK that need to be addressed rather than worrying about the insignificant number of people choosing the UK to be their home.
Maybe I'm blindly optimistic, but I see more benefits from having a diverse community than an insular one. However what I do agree with is that this argument goes round and round as there is no honest data, mainly anecdotal and opinion based.
I think we have a duty of care to offer legitimate asylum seekers a chance to settle here should they choose to. I accept illegal immigration is not generally welcomed, but neither are benefit cheats, or tax dodgers, and many other British (non immigrant legal or not) people who flaunt the law and make the life for the rest of us miserable and costing us money. Attributing that solely to immigrants (or even illegal immigrants) is actually erroneous - there are more problems within the UK that need to be addressed rather than worrying about the insignificant number of people choosing the UK to be their home.
Maybe I'm blindly optimistic, but I see more benefits from having a diverse community than an insular one. However what I do agree with is that this argument goes round and round as there is no honest data, mainly anecdotal and opinion based.
Immigrants are a net positive to our economy so how about directing your anger towards the correct people? ie the useless politicians who haven't spent this extra money on increasing public services
The amount of people here who lack critical thinking and believe any old crap they are told is utterly depressing, gullible ignoramuses
Does that somehow trump all the issues immigration brings?
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Surely anyone that comes here to work is an economic migrant, regardless of whether they earn min wage or £200k?
When did migrating to earn more money (aka economic migrant) become a bad thing?
You're wishing something bad happens to the posters kids or grand children?
What a pleasant
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Well yes, if it's net positive then by definition it does.
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Are you sure? I shop in Polish shops all the time and have never had anything but a very warm welcome.
kind of is
you don't get Californians moaning about 'immigration' from other US states yet we have people come from certain other EU states - Romania, Bulgaria, Poland etc.. and the daily fail brigade is up in arms... strangely enough no one complains about highly educated French graduates working in the city, but as soon as it can be portrayed as affecting the chav class then tis quite easy for the xenophobia to be stirred up
I don't complain about highly educated Indian immigrants coming to this country, I have invited them to my house and broken bread with them.
Not sure what your point is really.
point is that complaining about EU immigration is silly and often rooted in racsim
Soldato
So going by that definition then it's ok for migrant to come here, rape, murder pillage so long as he pays his taxes to a level above what he's costing?
I know it's an extreme example & not suggesting all migrants are the same but just making a point.
Why, the problem we seem to have on here is view points that it is either good or bad.
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Now I'm intrigued at what dowie said as he's on my ignore list.
Judging by his previous posts, I'm going to guess he's usggested some kind of forced sterilization/genocide?
Soldato
The new Godwin's Law ?